Posted on 04/14/2011 1:32:53 PM PDT by Rational Thought
“Stop with the damn birth certificate!” he said. “Stop!” According to him, it is a non-issue that only detracts from the real problem in America, which is progressives fundamentally transforming America.
“If you’re going to lose your country– we’re going to lose it on a birth certificate?” he asked. “You have a real opportunity to talk about American exceptionalism … instead you’re going to waste time on the birth certificate?”
“You’re out of your mind if you think that is a winning argument for the next election. You’re out of your mind. You have to go fight the battle on the principles of America!”
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“Umm African is reference to a continent not a race. “
You say that about “Asian” as well? NO?!?!
“Then you must be arguing that Obama was born in Africa! “
Nope. You are confusing father and son. “African” was NOT Barack Obama Jr’s race, it was Barack Obama Seniors race - his Dad. Yes, his Dad was born and was an African, and apparently considered his race “African”, as he self-described that on the birth certificate - “African race” was used many other Africans, in particular those attracted to pan-African ideals.
If you are looking for some proof of forgery, look elsewhere. that one is lame-o.
You ignore the fact that the MSM are all lefist groupies. They aren't going to tell the truth or even ask questions about 0h0m0's lack of eligibility or any of the numerous crimes he and his peeps have committed, nor their destructive and ruinous policies that are destroying the country.
Plus that's awfully high horse of you to tell anyone that they cannot question your silly statement that is meaningless.
So your argument that the question of his eligibility "distracts" the media is entirely bogus.
The media however does not cover many issues at the same time. You need the media to focus on the correct issues.
Now that's downright funny. The media, being wholely owned by leftist fellow travellers, is not a source of valid information and no "journalists" ever ask tough questions - so what is this "media focusing on the correct issues" supposed to mean?
Basic rules of debate. You assert the positive, you back it up. Being a Rock solid Conservative and all, it should be childs play.
BTW, just as a reminder, your “The COLB is valid, real...” card is maxed out. Try a different one.
Where has Glenn Beck been all week, on vacation?
Evidently not. He put down "African", and the State accepted it (per Dr Onaka). QED.
“Bringing up the birth certificate issue distracts from more important messages.”
Errr, I think it is MOST important to know if the POTUS
is LEGALLY eligible to occupy the Whitehouse.
What could be more important then that?
Yes, the birth certificate issue is a fly in the ointment
for the Communist taking over the USA, and turning it into the USSA.
I know, that’s pretty funny! I bet if we looked at WAGs’ posting history we’d find numerous comments along the line of “WND thinks dinosaurs roamed the earth” and “Farah is nutcase number one” and “WND is full of crap” etc.
I know we would.
Now all of a sudden it’s holy writ.
ROTFLOL!
Oops - I mean “roamed the earth at the same time as humans”.
Scroll up and look at the book page showing the OPTIONS AVAILABLE at the time for race.
It’s a government form. You don’t make up what you want. You check a box.
You’re suggesting Barrack (actual spelling) who wasn’t in the state of Hawaii at the time of the birth made up “African” as an option even though it wasn’t available as an option?
Nice trick!
He’s on some sort of tour, doing his radio program on location.
“But wait, I thought you didn’t want to deal in ‘kook blogger theories’ and ‘old rehashed’ whatever drivel you were spewing earlier?”
Unlike you, I look at the evidence from all sources. Shine the light of truth on it and see if it holds up or wilts. Birtherism, in particular claims he wants born in Honolulu, wilts.
If not in Honolulu, where was Obama born? What is your evidence?
“Red Steel seems to have just blasted your prized “The COLB is valid, real...” theory and WND’s “crack team” to hell a few posts back.”
UM ... NO.
Redsteel is re-hashing descredited claims that even WND wont touch, because their experts pointed out that the bloggers ‘proving’ it forged themselves were tweaking and distorting evidence. WND discounted the forgery claims well BEFORE the state of hawaii slammed the door shut with their vouching for Obama’s birth records on file.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214
A separate WND investigation into Obama’s certification of live birth utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren’t originally there.
(Editor’s note: WND’s investigation into the certification of live birth did not include inspecting the actual document, but only asking experts to evaluate the online image. Those experts, therefore, could not “prove” the document’s authenticity. The experts told WND merely that many of the forgery claims made against the image were inconclusive or falsified, leaving them no evidence that would cast doubt on the image’s authenticity.)
“Your opinion that a long form birth certificate is not a legal term is laughable.”
What’s laughable is pretending you can write ‘long form’ in a law and expect a consistent standard across 50 states. Think about it.
” But speaking of passports, do you believe a Hawaiian COLB is proof enough to get one?”
You tell me. ... Is it?
If not, why is it the standard form Hawaii gives out for birth information?
“Do you believe Bammie traveled to Packistan on a COLB?”
Of course not, he used a passport, but whats your point.
Back when I worked in the news biz we had a guy who was just like Fuzzy. I swear one day he argued with us that 2+2 didn’t equal four all the time. “It depends”. I kid you not. That jackass was also a Jewish man who condemned Israel and supported Palestine over the Rachael Pancake episode and a number of other issues.. He now works for a dem pol back east. Big shock. I think our friend here is his ideological soul mate.
Due to this thread, I did a bit of reading up on some of the queens and kings. Very sad stories, many of them. When I was there for a week in 1970, people often called it “Queen Emma”.
I often think Hawaii would have been better off if it stayed a separate kingdom. Too late, now.
What you posted was only at first blush by WND about Obama BS Factcheck COLB. The article you provide was written only 3 weeks after that crap factcheck forgery came out. The date of the article that you posted "Posted: August 23, 2008 5:40 pm Eastern"
But after a simmer and a month or two later, that stupid thing was getting taken apart, World Net Daily wasn't buying the Obama forgery anymore:
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"Rathergate II: Certification of Live Birth a clear forgery"
"Posted: November 25, 2008
1:00 am Eastern
© 2011
The media bought it. The voters bought it. And now some in Congress are resisting the idea of congressional hearings because they believe that Barack Obama's "birth certificate" has been posted online.
Not so.
What was posted was not a birth certificate, but something that resembles a "Certification of Live Birth" or COLB, which, even if authentic, does not prove "natural born" U.S. citizenship. You see, in Hawaii, a Certification of Live Birth is issued within a year of a child's birth to those who register a birth abroad or one that takes place outside a hospital.
It's Rathergate all over again with more amiss than a 1970s Selectric typewriter. But before I tell you what the experts found, let me ask you a few questions:
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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81943
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WOSG LoL. You're a clown.
Where was Obama born? What is your evidence?
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He was born in Mombassa. His own grandmother said so. Kenyan officials say so.
(My evidence is just as credible as yours. What do you think will clear this up?)
“If not in Honolulu, where was Obama born? What is your evidence?”
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We have no idea.
Obama REFUSES to show a BIRTH CERTIFICATE !!!!
How hard is that for you?
mombassa, evidence, the lucas smith obtained Birth Certificate.
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I don’t remember folks “like me” saying to lay off the birther issue. Did we win a historic election in 2010 because of the BC? Uhhhh...no we didn’t.
That's right, people "like you" saying the BC issue should be verboten because it would cause the (R)'s to loose in 2010. How'd that work out? The BC issue has continuously gained momentum since early 2008, and the (R)'s not only didn't loose big...they won big...all the while the oh so dreaded eligibility issue gained momentum. Didn't derail the conservatives in 2010, won't derail them in 2012.
Walk...
Chew gum...
HAHAHAHAHAHA ... you are a COWARD ... you dare not even answer a simple basic question that would make this whole issue moot. I’ve given the facts and evidence to back up the statement that Obama was born in Honolulu.
You dont like my facts, my evidence, my sources, my conclusion. Yes, my card is maxed out, no need to repeat the obvious points about a valid COLB, two newpaper announcements, state officials vouching for it, etc.
Fine. Now you TELL ME the right answer if I am so wrong.
Stop being such a weenie. If Obama wasnt born in Honolulu on Aug 4, 1961 ...
Where was Obama born? What is your evidence?
If you dare not answer the question .. it only proves that in your heart you know I’m probably right.
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