‘Stop With the Damn Birth Certificate!’ Beck Delivers Strong Message to Birthers

The Blaze ^ | 04/14/2011 | Jonathon M. Seidl

[Rational Thought]

“Stop with the damn birth certificate!” he said. “Stop!” According to him, it is a non-issue that only detracts from the real problem in America, which is progressives fundamentally transforming America.

“If you’re going to lose your country– we’re going to lose it on a birth certificate?” he asked. “You have a real opportunity to talk about American exceptionalism … instead you’re going to waste time on the birth certificate?”

“You’re out of your mind if you think that is a winning argument for the next election. You’re out of your mind. You have to go fight the battle on the principles of America!”

[Golden Eagle]

Excellent Question.

Thanks. It appears to be the next logical question, for those who refuse to consider the possibility that the last election was illegitimate, do they even care that the next election may be illegitimate as well?

So far, it doesn't appear that they do care, whether it be the so far conspicuously silent WOSG, or Mitt Romney, or Glen Beck, etc, but if they do, they should start helping us all work to make sure it never happens again. And if they don't, they are subsequently fully and truly discredited, and don't deserve another second of my time.

[WOSG]

“Why does your Obambie refuse to show a copy of his hospital
generated birth certificate?”
1) He doesnt need to show it. Moreover, implications that it doesnt exist or show he was born in Kenya just because we havent seen it ... not likely at all, as we have the hawaii officials vouching for his birth certificate being on file and showing him being born in Hawaii:

“Seeking to squelch persistent rumors that Sen. Barack Obama isn’t eligible to become president because he allegedly was born outside the United States, a Hawaiian official has confirmed she has “personally seen and verified” that the state “has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate” - meaning Obama was born in the Aloha state, and is therefore an American citizen.

2) The COLB is the official document you get from state of Hawaii, which has been shown, and ...

“What could be so embarrassing about it?”
3) maybe there is something embarrassing in it, but it wont be that he wasnt born in Honolulu.
4) It would hurt Obama to not have birthers around to play the racist card against. He’d LOVE to have this issue hanging around in 2012, to deflect from the REAL issues that will kill him - unemployment, economic stagnation, high deficits, lousy foreign policy, high gas prices, and massive Govt.

[Norm Lenhart]

You “The COLB is valid, real...”

me: Prove it, you made the assertion.

You: “The COLB is valid, real...”

Do you not see a problem here? Ad hominim? No, I called you out on making a false assertion after multiple posters posted evidence which you refuse to accept because officials who repeatedly conflict themselves are more believable to you than actual posted jpegs (which is no different than Obama posting jpegs). So can you tell me which are real and which are fake without resorting to conflicting and therefore unreliable ‘officials’?

You: “Nothing has contradicted the original statement that the COLB is real.”

Me: Except professional document analysts.”

You: “The COLB is valid, real...”

You” Nor has its validity been legitimately questioned, just the usual birther myths that have been debunked before.”

Me: Every American citizen has the legitimacy to question it.

You: “The COLB is valid, real...”

You: “Now if you have something REAL and FACTUAL to say, I can havea calm reasoned dialog. but throwing the same dishonest statements at me just becomes birther-whack-a-mole, a repitition of threads that have been repeated dozens of times.:

Me: You have been presented with ‘real” legitimate facts, ‘calm reasoned dialog by numerous posters. Your answer is...

“The COLB is valid, real...”

Regardless of being shown repeatedly it is not.

ME: “I’ll ask again: What is your agenda?”

You: :Why ask again when it has been answered multiple times.:

ME: Because you still have not answered the question.

You: “The COLB is valid, real...”

You: “Like I said, doing what I can to weed stupidity out of the conservative garden, that’s all.”

Me: Because you are a Rock Solid Conservative.

You: “The COLB is valid, real...”

That about cover it?

[Rational Thought]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKE4spE6evw

Recent interview with Joseph Farah....it’s worth listening to.

[Red Steel]

We see you also rely on Barackphile OBot troll who ultimately says it's the college kid's fault and passes it off as fact. Somethings smells like DU BS.

He made it all up, and all the rest of the clowns in the media fell for it. I doubt that. It's highly likely Obama/Soetoro family were not on the same lying page to cover up for Obama's foreign birth.

William Addams Reitwiesner, genealogist at the Library of Congress, first listed the birth location at Queen's.

Bennett Guira the college kid -"Put in simple terms: I was the source and the source was wrong" and Barky Fogbow Commie poster is the only source of this? The kid ONLY told the super OBot Loren. Oh yeah, I'd stake the house on Loren's word. /sarc LoL.

You all see that the only websites that have reported this "news" are Communist websites. Yeah, we're all convinced. LoL.

[Chickensoup]

I guess that I think that this is part of the fundamental loss of America to progressive. Certainly not the most important topic but that it should be included in the mix.

[Red Steel]

Hey AZ didn’t want to leave the Jewish certificate out of the law. Maybe your Barky was really born Jewish for all we know. LoL.

[little jeremiah]

You said that journalists in HI mistook Kapiolani Hospital for Queen’s because Kapiolani was the last queen of HI.

I proved that no journalist in HI would do so, and that Kapiolani was not the last queen. I never said she wasn’t a queen.

You screwed up, not me.

[Norm Lenhart]

I’ll be perfectly honest. I don’t care what they “feel” or “do”. I didn’t do squat to them, nor did 90% of Americans alive today. The morons among the black population will riot right along side the morons from the white population. Many good men and women of all races, including blacks will band together to oppose them - as it should be.

Full disclosure: I am a white man with a black son in law and am very happy with that.

People acting like anything but Americans should be treated accordingly.

[WOSG]

Why do you call someone an “OBOT” just because they have looked at all the facts and concluded the obvious - that Obama was born in Honolulu? All that proves is that you are willing to use logical fallacies to escape from reaching a factual conclusion. In this case, ad hominem.

You realize that most of the conservative movement is on the same page with me on this, including of course Glen Beck, who was nly trying to knock sense into people with his statement. So we are ALL Obots for not drinking the birther koolaid ? Et tu Michelle Malkin and co? ...

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/28/videohawaiian-official-corroborates-obama-colb-again/

“Obama has a valid COLB attesting to his Hawaiian birth, two statements from the state Department of Health explicitly noting his birth in Honolulu, and not one but two contemporaneous reports of his birth there. He’s a natural-born American citizen. I realize that this evidence won’t convince the fringe true believers, but maybe it’s enough to get the rest of America to ignore them to the same extent we ignore the Truthers and the Trig Truthers. Hopefully that will be soon, so we can build conservative credibility to fight the real battles — ObamaCare, cap-and-tax, and other attempts to socialize the American economy.” - Ed Morrisey

[Golden Eagle]

He doesnt need to show it.

Actually he does, as direct transcriptions of Hawaii law have indicated birth certificates were legally granted to state citizens of Hawaii who bore children even if the child was actually born outside the state.

And back to the question you keep avoiding, why wouldn't you require in all future elections that each state require (at a minimum) a long form birth certificate as proof that any potential candidate was truly born in the USA, as such a requirement is constitutional, but not currently technically implemented, and led to the current crisis?

[little jeremiah]

You think crap won’t hit the fan as long as everyone stays mum about the fraud in the White House? You think you can avoid “extreme havoc” by playing along with the fraud and not making waves?

You’re appeasement will get you nowhere. You’re appeasing the crocodile. It will be hungry, when the economy gets even worse - which it is, and will, and welfare payments stop, and dollars buy less, and prices go up. Which they are and will continue to do so. The dang country is bankrupt and sooner or later entitlements will reduce and/or stop.

Your appeasement mentality is part of the problem. It is sickening. You’re allowing feral humanimals rule your life, out of fear of out of control feral humans you are living a terrified life, afraid of the truth, afraid of crimes seeing the light of day in court. How can you live with yourself?

[WOSG]

That’s a non-substantive and low response.
If I erred, tell me where I am wrong.
The African race was used by those who supported pan-African ideals. See:
http://blog.jaluo.com/?p=3863
You have no way of knowing the Barack Obama Sr would NOT put “African” as his race.
I was truthful in sharing information and you call me a liar for pointing out that some Africans indeed considered African their ‘race’.
You sir need to do better.

[little jeremiah]

Oh, and this:

No little j, I live in the real world not in a secluded wooded lot.

So only living in East Coast megacities is the "real world"? The rural west isn't the "real world". Sheesh!

[Cyropaedia]

"June 6, 2007".

Yep.

Too bad too bad it was "stamped" with the version of the state seal that is used to stamp COLB's in even numbered years

[Responsibility2nd]

“Obama has a valid COLB attesting to his Hawaiian birth...”

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Your entire argument is based on the COLB. Every post you make in defense of the Kenyan revolves around that COLB.

Are you forgetting the Hawaiian “tradition” of issuing COLB’s to anyone and everyone? Regardless of whether they were born in Hawaii or not?

Hell, even Barry’s sister Maya has a Hawaiian COLB. And she was born in Indonesia.

[Hotlanta Mike]

What’s missing on your Obammie COLB that exists on an authentic COLB? Can you see the difference???

http://wtpotus.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/booth.jpg

Here is a “certificate” of live birth for comparison purposes

http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/longform1.jpg

[Golden Eagle]

looked at all the facts and concluded the obvious - that Obama was born in Honolulu

Then you should have no problem with each US state implementing a legal requirement that any potential candidate for US President provide a long form birth certificate to them which proves, beyond the shadow of any doubt, including those originating from states such as Hawaii that granted BC's to children born out of the state, that the candidate was born on US soil. But, for some reason, you refuse to assist in making sure these kinds of questions are finally put to rest in the next election, indicating you clearly have something to hide, not only in the future, but most likely now as well.

[Norm Lenhart]

Think of it this way LJ, we out west can see zombies coming from a greater distance. Since he will face a lot more close quarters combat if the fecal matter impacts the rotating device, he might wanna stock up on Glocks with big magazines.

His choice, but whatever he chooses, it won’t change what could happen.

[WOSG]

“journalsists? what journalists, they certainly aren’t unbiased”

Probably not. But that’s not the question. The question is what facts are there. And what does it show.

” Dan Rather was a journalist, how did his verification work out?”

Dan Rather was successfully exposed in his forgeries in a matter of 48 hours. The internet works fast. Those trying to debunk the COLB have had more than 48 hours, more like 24,000 hours - 3 years - and STILL nothing has been proved or even shown.

There is a very simple reason why not. The COLB is not a forgery. If it were, if I were convinced, I’d be the first to spread the word. I surely spread the word on the Rathergate forgery. But it’s not. The COLB is for real. if the COLB were a forgery, you wouldnt be getting state of Hawaii officials to back it up ...

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/2008/09/reports-that-ob.html

Does this mean Obama was born in Hawaii?

“Yes,” said Hawaii Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo, in both email and telephone interviews with the Tribune. “That’s what Dr. Fukino is saying.”