Posted on 04/14/2011 1:32:53 PM PDT by Rational Thought
“Stop with the damn birth certificate!” he said. “Stop!” According to him, it is a non-issue that only detracts from the real problem in America, which is progressives fundamentally transforming America.
“If you’re going to lose your country– we’re going to lose it on a birth certificate?” he asked. “You have a real opportunity to talk about American exceptionalism … instead you’re going to waste time on the birth certificate?”
“You’re out of your mind if you think that is a winning argument for the next election. You’re out of your mind. You have to go fight the battle on the principles of America!”
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That’s not true. There is more than just a jpg on the internet. The physical COLB itself was shared with journalists, who examined it and photographed it.
Which journalists? What expertise do they have in document forensic analysis?
He is really good on soft porn.
“Here’s a link to a blank Hawaii COLB. Any of us could easily add in some info, scan it, and claim it’s legit to others online. No different than what Zero’s people did for him.”
And then the part about getting the right serial number that would match serial numbers for births at the hospital of official birth and getting your information into the Hawaii official records, so that Hawaii state official can check the published COLB and compare and vouch for it ... how would you do that part?
“I want to see the same form for Zero that we’ve all seen for the Nordyke twins.”
Me too. I’d also like a balanced budget, and a Constitutionally following federal and smaller Govt. I think the first desire rates a bit lower than the others.
1961 - the race would be Negro, no such race as African.
Further, if the father’s race is listed as African, why isn;t the mother’s race listed as American just to be consistent? / s
They are not forgeries. They are the same document. I have nothing to do with them except pointing to people who falsely claim that only jpgs of the COLB have been shared that, yes, a physical COLB was shared with journalists, photographed etc.
Why do you OBOTS refuse to answer one simple question:
Why does your Obambie refuse to show a copy of his hospital
generated birth certificate?
What could be so embarrassing about it?
Not true. The Supremes or the Congress can interject themselves and subpena the original Long form.
Since the Bush admin rolled us on the immigration issue, I would not bet anything on them.
Maybe you are right. Maybe ‘birthers’ are all headed on a snipe hunt. But the bottom line for myself at least is that if we are a nation of laws, we better damn well follow them. Otherwise we are a 3rd world hellhole. Since we are a nation of laws (barely) then we have to follow up on this. It is way too important an issue to let slide.
But all he has to do is tell HI to release the LFBC and if we’re wrong, it all goes away. Such a simple solution and so many people twisting so many rationalizations to ensure BO can avoid that one simple thing.
Excellent Question.
Self ping to see how WOSG ignores it.
Or argues that Obammie’s COLB is the Holy Grail of all proof. And that no one need question it.
He needs to explain how those folds show up on the second jpg’s and not on the original. (forgeries)
me: “The COLB is valid, real...”
you: “After repeatedly being corrected by multiple posters as to your error in this assertion, you insist on posting misinformation.”
Let’s see. you’ve and other attacking me have thrown bogus ad hominems at me, made false statements about what I believe, dismissed real evidence as ‘nothing’, and on the COLB simply declared it a forgery, as if a declaration is a conclusion. The only real serious effort to ‘prove’ the COLB was a forgery was polaris 2 years ago and it failed to make the case; it failed not due to skill or effort but simply the thesis is wrong. The COLB is real, physical, and is the actual COLB Hawaii shared, and is based on real data in Hawaii records, and those records show Obama born in Honolulu Aug 4, 1961. The official story has official records to back it up.
Nothing has contradicted the original statement that the COLB is real. Nor has its validity been legitimately questioned, just the usual birther myths that have been debunked before.
Now if you have something REAL and FACTUAL to say, I can havea calm reasoned dialog. but throwing the same dishonest statements at me just becomes birther-whack-a-mole, a repitition of threads that have been repeated dozens of times.
“I’ll ask again: What is your agenda?”
Why ask again when it has been answered multiple times.
Like I said, doing what I can to weed stupidity out of the conservative garden, that’s all.
Don’t think you can have a one size fits all solution. Believe this is a much different scenario. Islam is in a category all of its own. Let me try to make my point again. If Obama is found not to have a BC or is in some way illegitimate what do you think the black community will do? They feel wronged by this Country already and to have Obama removed would only intensify that anger. I believe this is what Mr. Beck may fear. Imo what would happen is Obama would leave Office for a certain condition before he had to omit to any falsehoods.
So I truthfully point out that the physical COLB itself was shared with journalists, and that makes me a “DU’er”.
Yup, this is what’s wrong with the birther mentality.
Heard ALLLLL through the election season: Let’s just beat him on the issues!
Then, after election: It doesn’t matter UNTIL HE TAKES THE OATH OF OFFICE!!!
After that: Let’s FOCUS ON STOPPING HIM LEGISLATIVELY!!!!!
Sick of all you after-birthers who will spout the “founding fathers” and yet can’t even broach a DISCUSSION against men who broached a GUN!
I am NOT advocating ANYTHING resembling a revolution or violence towards our governmental system. However, Beck and SOME Freepers who want to harp on and on about the CONSTITUTION... and IGNORE in the same breath regarding the Natural Born Citizen issue are out of your minds!
Before I get to that ... was Obama born in Honolulu or some other location, and if not Honolulu what other location?
what is your evidence for your conclusion?
TNTNT is that you???
“a physical COLB was shared with journalists, photographed etc.______________________________________
The damn COLB means NOTHING !!!!
Everyone has seen hundreds of them, many conflicted.
Where is the BIRTH CERTIFICATE?
Why do they have to hide it?
rationality and logic are so embarrassing. so against the group ethos of delusion.
when people make being part of the "in group" the main ethic of life, truth must be treated like a cinderella, an embarrassing part of life.
we birthers embarrass the in group. we show by insistence upon truth that we are not fellow travellers.
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That should be good. For whom is the question.
If you think it will stop Obama, dream on.
You “truthdfully” pointed out...
Give me the NAMES of the “journalists” who have examined this (and I do NOT count a few kids younger than MY OWN KIDS college interns as “journalists”) who has had the privileged of the COLB being “shared.”
journalsists? what journalists, they certainly aren’t unbiased and hournalists does not describe document experts. Dan Rather was a journalist, how did his verification work out? After that you still believe everything you see or hear?
You could indeed. But there would be no point, because, when push came to shove, the resulting document would not be verified by the State of Hawaii.
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