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Michele Bachmann: Social conservatism is fiscal conservatism
Cedar Rapids Gazette ^ | 04/15/2011 | Diane Heldt

Posted on 04/12/2011 6:40:44 AM PDT by iowamark

When a society supports strong families led by one man and one woman, it has benefits for the economy as well, Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann said Monday during a visit to the University of Iowa.

Marriage between a man and a woman is a foundation block for a strong America, but marriage has been under attack, Bachmann, a potential 2012 Republican presidential candidate, said. She also noted the financial implications of pregnancies to unwed mothers, through welfare and other government spending.

“Social conservatism is fiscal conservatism,” Bachmann said to loud cheers from the crowd of about 200. “You can’t separate” the two.

Bachmann’s visit Monday was part of the presidential lecture series sponsored by Iowa conservative group The Family Leader. The lecture series has brought several prominent national politicians to Iowa City in recent weeks.

She talked of the “three-legged stool” needed to hold up American society: upholding life, marriage and strong family life; promoting a strong economy and job creation; and national security. Bachmann said she was a strong opponent of U.S. involvement in Libya, a situation she calls a “big mistake.”

“He has no idea what our military goal is in Libya,” she said of President Barack Obama.

But the greatest threat to national security is not Iran or Libya, it’s the national debt, Bachmann said. She rallied against Obama’s health care overhaul, which she said will cost more than anyone imagines and provide people less care, and said she was disappointed with the federal budget plan released last week, which she believes doesn’t go far enough to cut government spending.

There were some vocal protesters who repeatedly shouted questions during a portion of Bachmann’s speech. When she took questions after the speech, Bachmann invited one of the protesters to ask the first question. The pair were asked to leave the ballroom a few minutes later. One of the protesters asked Bachmann “how much oil do you want?”

Bachmann, who lived in Waterloo until she was 12, responded that she wants a lot more than the United States has now, but she wants it to come from U.S. oil fields instead of from the Middle East. The United States could be the most energy-rich country in the world if it accessed its oil, its natural gas and developed more wind and solar energy, she said.

“We could supply our own energy cheaper and be an exporter,” she said.

Coralville resident Randy Crawford said after the speech he thinks Bachmann has a lot of common sense about the U.S. tax system and about societal stability, such as her opposition to abortion and gay marriage.

“It’s what we need a lot more of,” Crawford said. “She’s head and shoulders above Obama.”


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Minnesota Representative Michele Bachmann speaks at the University of Iowa on April 11, 2011 in Iowa City.


1 posted on 04/12/2011 6:40:50 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

http://thevfw.blogspot.com/2011/01/vfw-will-defeat-bachmann-plan.html


2 posted on 04/12/2011 6:42:37 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: iowamark

And vice-versa!


3 posted on 04/12/2011 6:43:03 AM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: iowamark
Bachmann said she was a strong opponent of U.S. involvement in Libya, a situation she calls a “big mistake.”

As opposed to Mrs. Palin, who was gung-ho in favor of it.

4 posted on 04/12/2011 6:43:36 AM PDT by Huck (Will we still be using U6 when the pubbies are back in charge?)
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To: iowamark
Exactly right.

I'm really upset that the GOP cannot defund Planned Parenthood. I think it shows that they have no firm principles and are just politicians engaging in horse trading.

5 posted on 04/12/2011 6:44:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: iowamark
Social conservatism is fiscal conservatism

And yet she stabs Boehner in the back with her talk about a "clean bill", having no problem funding Planned Parenthood and NPR despite Boehner holding firm on that point until then.

6 posted on 04/12/2011 6:48:01 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Winning The Future" = WTF = What The F*** / "Kinetic Military Action" = KMA = Kiss My A**)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That issue is the holy grail of leftist politics. The likelihood of that getting through the Dem Senate and Obama is essentially zero. Getting everyone on record now, is a good campaign issue, though. Having the issue at the forefront and debating the legitimacy of this as a Federal expense is a great issue for us. The debate has to move from dollar amounts to proper functions of the Federal government, and this one can be a winner for us. Even many who are pro-choice will be receptive to stopping tax payer money from funding it.


7 posted on 04/12/2011 6:49:13 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: iowamark

http://www.press-citizen.com/article/20110412/NEWS01/104120337/Protesters-confront-Bachmann-at-UI-visit
“Protesters confront Bachmann at UI visit”


8 posted on 04/12/2011 6:53:19 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

Wonder what the conservative crowd is going to think of the Bachmann family farm subsidies.

And I wonder what they’ll think of her husband’s business’ subsidies. And when the MSM trots out the “victims” of his practice.

While I love her “spunk” I hope she stays in Minnesota.

Because even if, by some miracle, she wins the GOP nomination, she has about as much chance as delivering MN to the Republican column as I have in being the 2011 Playmate of the Year.


9 posted on 04/12/2011 6:55:03 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: iowamark
As long as the "social conservatives" insist on supporting the current domestic drug war and legitimizing the abuse of the Commerce Clause that goes with it, their claim to being "fiscally conservative" is specious, IMHO.

Nobody who's given any serious thought to the explosive expansion of the federal government and looked at the root causes can really believe that the substantial effects doctrine and the New Deal Commerce Clause are something we need to keep.

10 posted on 04/12/2011 7:02:06 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: iowamark
You can say that Michelle Bachmann hasn't got a prayer of winning the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, much less, the presidential election, but she has a clear view of what our core values should be as a nation and stands in direct opposition to Obama and the Democrats. I still support Sarah Palin (while disagreeing with her on Libya) but if Palin chooses not to run (a distinct possibility) and Bachmann does, I would give her candidacy serious consideration and hope other conservatives would, too. With so many RINOs (and downright boring politicians) being touted as prospective Republican presidential candidates for 2012, Michelle Bachmann stands out.

I'm sure, as with Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann will be nit-picked by conservatives who never seem to find a politician that meets their litmus test on some issue or other, but they can be ignored. The leftmedia will, as always, attempt to choose the Republican candidate in 2012, most likely Mitt Romney, the media's designated loser and, should he win, a RINO they could live with, no doubt. The Democrats will try to manipulate the 'open' primaries and pretend they are really scared of say, Romney the RINO but they attack Palin non-stop and never even notice Romney, today, so astute political observers are not fooled.

Should Sarah Palin decide not to run, which seems quite possible at this juncture, Michelle Bachmann would be a worthy replacement and someone that I could support until or unless someone else with a solid conservative political philosophy, leadership abilities, strength of character and charisma arose. I don't see that happening so, for me, it's Palin or Bachmann in 2012. However, although we have to live in the moment, nothing ever stays the same, politics are volatile (as is the world) so this could all change by next year.

11 posted on 04/12/2011 7:09:10 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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Social liberalism boils down to individuals not having to experience the consequences of their choices. If there are consequences, then, in their worldview, the individual isn’t truly free to make that choice.

When the individual doesn’t experience the consequences, that alleviation must be paid by someone else, through government, and that invariably leads to fiscal liberalism as well.


12 posted on 04/12/2011 7:12:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Daisyjane69
Because even if, by some miracle, she wins the GOP nomination, she has about as much chance as delivering MN to the Republican column as I have in being the 2011 Playmate of the Year.

Hard to make an assessment without pictures!

13 posted on 04/12/2011 7:18:11 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: iowamark
“It’s what we need a lot more of,” Crawford said. “She’s head and shoulders above Obama.”

You can say that again!

14 posted on 04/12/2011 7:19:25 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: tacticalogic
As long as the "social conservatives" insist on supporting the current domestic drug war and legitimizing the abuse of the Commerce Clause that goes with it, their claim to being "fiscally conservative" is specious, IMHO.

Until social conservatives understand this, the democratic party (not that they don' support the WOD and abuse of the commerce clause either) will seem like a refuge to those who would support fiscal conservatism, but see none in the social conservatives and run screaming from these other agendae.

15 posted on 04/12/2011 7:22:06 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: tacticalogic
As long as the "social conservatives" insist on supporting the current domestic drug war and legitimizing the abuse of the Commerce Clause that goes with it, their claim to being "fiscally conservative" is specious, IMHO.

There's something we definitely agree on, and it goes to other areas too. I think it should be restated. Personal social conservatism is a value that promotes overall fiscal conservatism. The problem comes when you try to force that social conservatism onto others, because the enforcement incurs a serious fiscal cost.

16 posted on 04/12/2011 7:43:48 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: iowamark

FINALLY a smart conservative move. This clips off all the DC insider RINOs who “don’t care about marriage, abortion, children, age of consent, subjects in school” etc.

The DC insiders attacking the citizens has to end and the ballot box is the best way.


17 posted on 04/12/2011 9:00:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Huck

As opposed to Mrs. Palin, who was gung-ho in favor of it.

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And if that is not the most ignored factoids in the leadup to the race for 2012, then it has to be Trump’s flip flop on abortion.


18 posted on 04/12/2011 9:13:39 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

I think it’s ignored in part because she’s fading away. I think it’s a short time before her fans miss the old days when there were “PDSers” hassling them.


19 posted on 04/12/2011 9:19:04 AM PDT by Huck (Will we still be using U6 when the pubbies are back in charge?)
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To: Daisyjane69
You mean like Barbara Bush hopes Sarah Palin stays in Alaska?
20 posted on 04/12/2011 4:31:45 PM PDT by ejdrapes (Run Michele Run! Birthers and Palin KADs need not apply.)
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