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I'm not sure I agree with Morris but I'm posting his thoughts to see what FReepers think of the deal just consummated with respect to our budget deficit and national debt.
1 posted on 04/09/2011 5:39:41 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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This was an extraordinary deal. Everyone seems to be saying his side lost.

The question now is what are the Republicans going to do about righting the ship. It seems to me the big fight starts now.

2 posted on 04/09/2011 5:41:47 PM PDT by stevem
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Inside the DC “bubble,” it’s a big win for Boehner. In the real world it’s a joke. One penny saved on the $1000 bill of spending — if you even consider a minute “reduction in an increase” meaningful.


3 posted on 04/09/2011 5:47:48 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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Theyre selling independence,
Actors in the white house,
Acid in digestion,
Mortgage on my life,
Mortgage on my life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtURmn_knzA

The deal sucks.


4 posted on 04/09/2011 5:49:34 PM PDT by MulberryDraw
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Even when Morris is right he still makes my skin crawl. Toe sucker.


5 posted on 04/09/2011 5:50:46 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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6 posted on 04/09/2011 5:51:11 PM PDT by Bobalu ( "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." ..Moshe Dayan:)
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It’s a sad day when Morris is more conservative then the GOP leadership


8 posted on 04/09/2011 5:57:41 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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Keep buying gold and silver. The dollar is toilet paper.


9 posted on 04/09/2011 5:59:17 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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I think we should change Johns name to Judy.

As in Punch and Judy!

He sure has the part down, doesn't he?

10 posted on 04/09/2011 6:10:39 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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This deal isn’t important as important as Paul Ryan budget and the debt ceiling is. Actually, I’m surprised they held their ground for $38B.

If the Republicans were smart they would tie the Ryan budget to increasing the debt ceiling. If they pass the debt ceiling without the budget you might as well forget any hopes of getting the Ryan budget through.


12 posted on 04/09/2011 6:11:07 PM PDT by HarleyD
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I state, once again, that until Congress does the following, everything’s just paper chasing and papering over the massive debt:

1) Roll back congress’ budget to FY2000 levels.
2) End all retirement benefits for elected or appointed officials, including congress itself.
3) Especially end all retirement benefits for SPOUSES of congress. Why on earth they get benefits I've no clue at all.

Until CONGRESS takes serious the idea that they're spending someone else’s money and gets their own financial house in order, everything else is just play money to them. Shifting mountains of money for political effect, rather than treating it as money taken from us, sometimes even at gunpoint.

You don't retire from Congress, you get told someone else is going to take over the duties and you can go back to your life now.

14 posted on 04/09/2011 6:22:28 PM PDT by kingu (Legislators should read what they write!)
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It was a feeble effort, much more show than go. In the face of a multi trillion dollar problem he made his stand over what amounts to nothing more than a few days interest on the national debt. Not good


17 posted on 04/09/2011 6:53:13 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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I whole heartily agree. This was nothing more than a sellout! Just look at all of the talking heads who are out in the news trying to convince the Tea Party how much they got in the deal!

No one talks that much about a great deal, if it was so good, the American people would already know that, they would not need any probing from the lame old media!

18 posted on 04/09/2011 6:53:30 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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Same basic question I asked my Tea Party friends. With this who thinks the repubs will have the guts to do the right thing on the debt ceiling and 2012 budget. I do not. I do see how they could do it but they are gutless so I fear without OD intervention all is lost.


19 posted on 04/09/2011 6:56:02 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution.)
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This is just a continuing resolution funding the Govt temporally. This is not the annual budget. Right? There was no budget passed in 2010 for 2011 so CR’s for a few weeks at a time are the way the govt is being funded. The 2012 budget formed in 2011 will be the big fight.


21 posted on 04/09/2011 7:02:19 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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NPR defunding
EPA riders
Planned Parenthood abortion mills defunding
Obamacare defunding

Did the Republicans win ANYTHING?

No. The cowards caved on everything. I am done with Boner and the rest of the em-effers.


23 posted on 04/09/2011 7:05:24 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Boehner and the OP(formerly the GOP) sold the Constitution as they have done for decades. This time they did not address the root cause of the problem. The root cause is due to Congress expanding their powers far beyond the enumerated powers granted to Congress in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution. Violating Article 1 Section 8 has created not only an Unconstitutional government but one so large it has become cost prohibitive.

The only way to reduce federal spending is by eliminating all federal agencies not in compliance with any of the enumerated powers in Article 1 Section 8. Doing so will dramatically reduce the size of government along with the associated costs. Any budget proposal that does not address this issue is nothing more than smoke and mirrors!


24 posted on 04/09/2011 7:13:18 PM PDT by Defend Liberty
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Who is this “we” Dick Morris speaks of?


25 posted on 04/09/2011 7:16:15 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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A complete sellout.

And a completely worthless “cut.”

How much did Bush spend to fight AIDS in Africa? Somewhere around this cut.

The country is facing the death of its currency and the GOP dickers over a few billion dollars.

They should be using incrementalism — favorite tactic of the Left — to hack away at our deficit spending and to pay down our debt.

They should be talking about hundreds of billions for this first round of cuts.

Then, once they win that, it should be another several hundred billion. On and on until we cut the hell out of not just federal spending, but the entire federal government as the Leviathan it has become.


32 posted on 04/09/2011 7:37:27 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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So if Boehner had gotten the $61 billion in cuts instead of $38, so-the-hell-what?!

Freepers are crying because he got 1% instead of an ultra-conservative Tea Party approved 2%?


34 posted on 04/09/2011 7:56:07 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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No one is remarking on the fact that the POS CIC held our military as pawns.

Despicable for ANY politician - but for the CIC?

Our soldiers are NOT ‘nonessential personnel’. How the HELL did he get away with that?

Another part of this equation: Yesterday, BEFORE it was known in there would a shut down, our soldiers got a notice regarding their next paycheck due: They were warned that they wouldn't get paid for the 9th-15th of April!

I can tell you that the looming probability of their pay checks stopping weighed heavy on them, especially the ones deployed. They were worried about their spouses and children back home: Mortgage, food, bills.

In addition, our soldiers would be required to show up for duty every day - while not getting paid.

HOW COULD A CIC DO THIS?

However, the REAL nonessential personnel, would NOT be expected to work - AND were to get unemployment!

Now, answer me this: This cut off of soldiers pay was already all set up - before it was even known if there’d be a shut down.

Name me one other time the gov’t has gotten ANYthing done on time? Even this budget fight was over a budget that was, by law, supposed to’ve been passed last year! (And they admit they didn't do it last year because of things that would come to light that would cost a lot of them reelection! So they were able to get away with ignoring the law on passing an annual budget without repercussions - and...

Well, I'm still to angry and disgusted to write all I'm thinking...

Except one more note: Chucky Shooomah likened the Tea Party to nothing but a flea on the tail of a dog - the tail being the Republican Party - and the dog being the gov’t - i.e., HIM and crew.

When are we going to educate these ‘enemies domestic’ that they are there as ‘representatives’ to carry out the will of WE THE PEOPLE - they are NOT there as RULERS.

36 posted on 04/09/2011 7:58:08 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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