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Rove warns Republicans: Shutdown could boost Obama
CNN ^ | 04/08/2011 | Alexander Mooney

Posted on 04/08/2011 2:08:46 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

Washington (CNN) – Furloughed jobs, interrupted services, and the potential economic ramifications aside, top Republican strategist Karl Rove is warning a government shutdown is likely to strengthen President Obama's hand as he heads into his reelection campaign.

In his weekly polling memo, Rove notes the 1995 government shutdown bolstered President Clinton's image in the eyes of voters as a strong leader, positioning him for a relatively easy reelection victory one year later.

"The shutdowns helped improve Clinton's political standing, boosting both his approval rating and perceptions of him as a strong leader," writes Rove. "At the time, poll watchers noted that, 'the only time Clinton's ratings have improved substantially the past year as a result of his actions has been when he adopted a strategy of confrontation.'"

Rove reports Clinton's approval rating saw nearly a double-digit jump during the 1995 government shutdown and continued to climb as the reelection campaign began in earnest.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: karlrove; miltromney; rove; rove4romney; tokyorove
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To: Prokopton

ROVE...eat dog excramate and DIE!!!!!! GO AWAY!!!!


41 posted on 04/08/2011 2:26:48 PM PDT by OregonTide
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To: Prokopton

Why is anything Rove says posted on a conservative site?

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I know, right? It’s like when someone posts something from Miss Piggy (Meghan McCain). We do it just to inflame the FReepers!


42 posted on 04/08/2011 2:27:08 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A Birther: One who has questions or concerns over the birth of Barry Barack Hussein Soetero Obama)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Blasts from the apst:

Rove warns Republicans - not passing amnesty will lose elections.

Rove warns Republicans - Palin is a joke.

Rove warns Republicans - oh, never mind.

Rove is the guy who turned a sure win against a dilletante moron (Kerry) into a near loss. Why is this buffoon still on the public stage?


43 posted on 04/08/2011 2:27:18 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Responsibility2nd

This isn’t 1995, and Clinton wasn’t a clueless fool that really only cared about flying around in the big shiny airplane.


44 posted on 04/08/2011 2:29:33 PM PDT by Minn
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To: Responsibility2nd

Don’t you have a Tee Time at the CC Karl? Leave us alone.

Pray for America


45 posted on 04/08/2011 2:30:51 PM PDT by bray (The Recovery begins when Obama is unemployed!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

That’s it... it is obvious... obama pays rove these days. rove you bastard liberal pos... FOAD arsehole!

LLS


46 posted on 04/08/2011 2:31:11 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

In 1995 the unemployment rate was 5.6%; today, 9.0%. (Gallup has a more accurate reading of 10.0%). The U-6 unemployment rate was 9.9% today 17.0% (the U-6 unemployment rate counts not only people without work seeking full time employment but also marginally attached workers and those working part-time for economic reasons.) (Gallup shows that figure to be 19.0%) The unemployment rates are up 62 and 72% respectively.

The federal budget deficit in 1995 was $172 billion; by the end of fiscal 2011 it will be nearly $1.65 Trillion. (adjusting for inflation: the annual deficit is up by 543%) The deficit as a percent of GDP in 1995 was 3.2% in 2011 it will be 11.3%.

The national debt at the end of 1995 was $4.9 Trillion; at the end of 2011 it will be $14.5 Trillion. (adjusting for inflation: the national debt is up 106%, or more than double). The national debt was 66% of GDP in 1995 and will be nearly 100% of GDP in 2011.

Overall government (federal, state and local) spending has also skyrocketed. In 1995, $2.63 Trillion was spent; in 2011 it will be $6.3 Trillion. (adjusted for inflation: overall spending is up 70%). In 1995 this spending was 35% of the GDP; today it exceeds 46% of the GDP.

In 1995, the federal government budget was $1.6 Trillion; President Obama has proposed for 2011 a budget of $3.75 Trillion. (adjusted for inflation: an increase of 67%)

The U.S. Gross Domestic Product in 1995 grew over 4.5% from the previous year. In 2010 the GDP grew only at 2.3% over the previous year.

Another point of economic comparison is the price of oil. In 1995 it was $17.99 a barrel, today it is $105.00 (an increase of 304% adjusted for inflation).

The Democrats cannot escape the fact that all this devastating economic news over the past 3 years occurred when they either controlled Congress or had a stranglehold on White House and the Congress.

In 1995, the American citizen was not engaged in the political process. Per the above statistics, the economy was doing well and the average citizen was content to go about his business.

There were no foreign wars ongoing, no terror activity, and no upheavals in the Middle East with the very real prospect of jihadist takeovers in Egypt, Libya and Yemen in addition to a nuclear armed Iran. The world is a far more dangerous place than it was in 1995 or even 2008.

In the venue of the media there was no Fox News, no internet blogs or news and commentary sites, and talk radio (dominated by conservatives) was a quarter of what it is today. The media that so aided and abetted the Democrats to spin the 1995 shutdown as a Republican blunder is a shadow of its former self.

But the ultimate determination of the supposed disaster that befell the Republicans is what happened in the next election in 1996 less than a year after the shutdown. This was also a presidential election year wherein Bill Clinton carried 31 states soundly defeating Bob Dole by over 8.3 million votes. Yet the Republicans picked up 2 seats in the Senate and lost only 9 in the House after winning a then unprecedented 54 seats in 1994. The Republicans also maintained control of the House for the next ten years until 2006.

The atmosphere that allowed Bill Clinton, the Democrats and their allies in the media to blame the shutdown on the Republicans does not exist today. In fact it is the polar opposite. The Republican leadership of the House and Senate need to understand that.

The people are now engaged. They are aware of the nation’s debt and spending crisis which will lead to national bankruptcy. The Tea Party movement is unlike any other in recent American history and confirms the anxiety of the vast majority of the people as to the future. A shutdown will not result in Social Security checks or other vital services being curtailed only the temporary stoppage of non-essential services.

There is an old adage: if you go back to the well too often, it runs out of water. Both parties need to heed that advice.


47 posted on 04/08/2011 2:31:51 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Jobs? Nope! Economy? Nope! Disarm the U.S? Yep! Impeach the treasonous Marxist Muslim usurper bast)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Karl...go play in the Democrat sandbox...you know you want to...


48 posted on 04/08/2011 2:32:15 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Howie66; Responsibility2nd
Yo, show some some respeck for Karl. Remember

Never in the history of human political endeavour,
Has a man managed to achieve such paltry political results
with such huge resources and advantages at his disposal.

He is also excellent at snatching defeat from the jaws of certain victory ... at tremendous cost and expense. But, I am a compassionate man. I realize that Karl is suffering from a serious medical condition: a proctological neurosis which dooms him to a certain death.

No psychiatrist will touch the case until a proctologist is able to bring the head out. Perhaps an illegal alien Mexican will be found to do the job that no American doctor will do.

After all, Karl personally assured me that the offspring of illegal alien Mexicans will be the "Republicans of the Future!" ¡Viva América FUBAR!

49 posted on 04/08/2011 2:33:03 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Qadafi and Obama share a common advantage. No organized opposition.)
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To: Cementjungle

Hey Rove...you still campaigning for Scozzafava??!!!


50 posted on 04/08/2011 2:33:10 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Responsibility2nd

the reps will take the blame for imagined transgressions if our representatives stay silent

Trump has shown us how to act when dealing with the opposition - it’s not so dissimilar to Dem tactics in the first place. Yet, Rove wants us to compromise, again?

Oh Hell to the NO.

Every single member of the rep/tea-party congress needs to be in front of any and every newspaper/internet outlet/random tv station, however they can get the chance, beg steal or borrow, and get busy Trumping the dems.

it’s time to stand up against political rhetoric, call the Dems out once and for all into the light of day and pound the points in fact over and over and over until the din is impossible to ignore.

TRUMP THE DEMS AND RAISE CAIN


51 posted on 04/08/2011 2:33:39 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Responsibility2nd

Democrats look like human beings but why would human beings want to enable the slaughter of their unborn or newborn??? Cue the theme from “Twilight Zone”


52 posted on 04/08/2011 2:33:49 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: Responsibility2nd

53 posted on 04/08/2011 2:33:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Howie66; Responsibility2nd

Mega Dittos!

STFU Karl (my exact 1st thought reading the headline).


54 posted on 04/08/2011 2:35:19 PM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Wish Rove would get another job.


55 posted on 04/08/2011 2:35:25 PM PDT by DallasDeb
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To: Responsibility2nd

Karl Rove is basically irrelevant now but to the MSM he is ‘connected’ and a reliable Republican that will always go against the conservative agenda/candidate, neatly filling the role any Republican plays in the MSM. That Rove is all over Fox News is annoying but certainly proves that Fox, despite the caterwauling from the left, is not a ‘conservative’ network. On the shutdown advice: Rove can go pound sand.


56 posted on 04/08/2011 2:36:34 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: InterceptPoint

Notice Rove never tells what would hurt Obama?

I think he’s looking for a job.


57 posted on 04/08/2011 2:38:04 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: trapped_in_LA
Clinton was the exact same as O in so many ways it is scary.

That is absurd. None of us here were probably pleased with Clinton's election. Clinton has over-sized appetites, that were almost his undoing. But nobody doubts that Clinton is who he claims to be. Nobody doubted that Clinton knew what the hell he was doing with policy, whether you agreed with him or not. There is no evidence that Clinton's childhood and college years were spent on the knees of American hating Marxists. And nobody ever sincerely wondered if Clinton was really on the country's side.

58 posted on 04/08/2011 2:38:50 PM PDT by Minn
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To: Responsibility2nd

Could someone please tell Rove that he was completely responsible for the Democrats taking control of the Congress and Senate in 2007?

Guess he still has tingles up his leg from the “Rove You Magnificent Bastard” posts!

If there were ever a little pr@ck that I’d beat up at age 10, it’d be Karl!


59 posted on 04/08/2011 2:39:42 PM PDT by poobear (FACTS - the turd in the punch bowl of liberal thought!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

The republicans followed his advice for 6 years and it finally cost them the majority. W took his advice and he spent like a drunken sailor. (I used to be a drunken sailor.)


60 posted on 04/08/2011 2:39:48 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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