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Brazil school shooting gives further proof ‘gun control’ does not work
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 7 April, 2011 | David Codrea

Posted on 04/08/2011 6:20:03 AM PDT by marktwain

“A man believed to be a former student opened fire in a school in Rio de Janeiro on Thursday, killing 12 people and wounding 22 others before taking his own life,” AFP is reporting.

The shooter is identified as being 24 years old.

Per BBC News:

[A]ny Brazilian over the age of 25 can buy a firearm, provided they pass background checks.

Then there is this:

[A]ll firearms are required to be registered with the state…

We’re further told that it’s “virtually impossible to obtain a carry permit,” and that a tax must be paid every three years to own a gun legally. So naturally, nine of the estimated 17 million guns in Brazil are unregistered.

And naturally:

Although Brazil has 110 million fewer citizens than the United States, and more restrictive gun laws, there are 50% more gun deaths; other sources indicate that homicide rates due to guns are approximately four times higher than the rate in the United States.

A candid assessment, reported in The New York Times of all papers, during discussion on a nationwide gun ban in 2005, explains: Advertisement

"If approved, this measure is not going to affect criminals, but will only prevent ordinary citizens from defending themselves," said Mr. Fraga, a former police commander. "Criminals don't go to the store to buy their guns, they get them clandestinely through networks of contraband, which are only going to grow if the yes wins" because ordinary citizens will also have to turn to them.

And we should be shocked, shocked to read this admission:

Other guns used to commit crimes come from police and military arsenals, either stolen or sold by corrupt soldiers and officers.

So much for—what do the antis call it?—“common sense gun control.”

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; brazil; gun; school
Brazil is a gun contollers dream, much like Mexico. Both have homicide rates of more than 4 times the United States. This fact is always ignored by the anti freedom campaigners.
1 posted on 04/08/2011 6:20:07 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Logic and reason are not hallmarks of liberalism...............


2 posted on 04/08/2011 6:25:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 1,723 threads and 64,113 replies. as of 04-06-2011)
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To: marktwain

And further proof that some Mooslims are willing to kill defenseless school kids...


3 posted on 04/08/2011 6:47:04 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: marktwain
A]ny Brazilian over the age of 25 can buy a firearm, provided they pass background checks...[A]ll firearms are required to be registered with the state...We’re further told that it’s “virtually impossible to obtain a carry permit...

Except for the 25 years of age, exactly like New Jersey.

4 posted on 04/08/2011 6:48:49 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Red Badger
Brazil school shooting gives further proof ‘gun control’ does not work

liberalism or statism is a form of religion, based on emotion and belief in an all powerful entity - the government. Statism is not a logic based system of belief, and as such its believers are not swayed by logic. To paraphrase Stuart Chase:

Fur the true believer, no proof is necessary, and no disproof possible

5 posted on 04/08/2011 7:04:14 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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And this murderer was stopped by a good guy with a gun.

That is the lesson I learn from this.


6 posted on 04/08/2011 7:30:01 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: marktwain

Consider that if there ever were a place where gun control worked, we’d never hear the end of it.

However, they can never seem to cite an example where it has worked (Just like Socialism – Coincidence?)

They can only speak in terms of ‘baby steps’ and ‘a good start’ to absolve themselves when their ‘commonsense’ (common-nonsense) schemes do not work – as always.


7 posted on 04/08/2011 7:51:32 AM PDT by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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Logic and reason are not hallmarks of liberalism...............

Neither are Freedom and Liberty.

8 posted on 04/08/2011 7:54:21 AM PDT by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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These Brazil killings could not have taken place if they had banned over 10 round magazines!

Oh wait, the Brazilian newspapers say the shooter used two REVOLVERS and lots of ammo.

Well, maybe if we just ban all 6 shot revolvers and only allow 5 shot revolvers!

Problem solved! Ain’t I smart!

Just for what it is worth, I have a photo printed in a 40 year old gun magazine showing a homemade pistol made by a Brazilian boy. He used files and cut the pistol entirely from a piece of railroad track steel.


9 posted on 04/08/2011 7:54:55 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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Freedom and Liberty are the result of Logic and reason ..........


10 posted on 04/08/2011 8:02:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 1,723 threads and 64,113 replies. as of 04-06-2011)
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To: Red Badger

Tyranny and Destruction are the result of Liberalism and Socialism.


11 posted on 04/08/2011 8:50:31 AM PDT by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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Tyranny and Destruction followed by Anarchy and Chaos............


12 posted on 04/08/2011 8:56:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 1,723 threads and 64,113 replies. as of 04-06-2011)
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