Angela reams Rush

Thr Rush Limbaugh Show | 4/7/11 | nully

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Caller Angela reams Rush up one side and down the other for not questioning Obama's bona fides back when it would have made a difference.

Telling him he and the pubies in high places owe us an apology and should hang their heads in shame for not calling his citizenship status into question before he was even nominated.

Rush got VERY defensive, sounded like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar...

[Spaulding]

Rush made the salient point. There is no reason to believe that Obama was not born in Hawaii. If he was born in Hawaii after 1959, he is eligible to be President. Q.E.D.

Notary, you are sadly, one of the many uninformed. Rush probably knows better, but he also understands the dearth of literacy among so many. Being born i Hawaii in no way established eligibility. Just ask Pat Leahy, and every other senator, who, in 2008, signed Senate Res 511 in which archives you will read:

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied. “That is mine, too,” said Leahy.”

What don't you understand about being born of American Parents? Every U.S. Senator understood that? Oh, they were talking about McCain you say. Then Obama, because he is a descendant of a race some of whom came to the U.S. as slaves, doesn't have the same eligibility requirements as the white man, McCain? But then, this hearing is one of six held because McCain wan’t born on sovereign U.S. territory. No hearings were ever held about Obama, in spite of many, including Commander Charles Kerchner, sent registered letters to congress persons asking them to vet Obama’s eligibility.

No congressman, except Georgia Congressman Nathan Deal, asked for proof of eligibility. The answer to Deal was to dig through his old income taxes and find some excuse to raise ethics charges in the Democrat-controlled ethics committee. Deal resigned, and become Governor of Georgia - one of our heroes.

A Dozen supreme court justices have cited the common-law principle which is variously called natural born Citizenship, birthright citizenship, or Native citizenship, and which means “born on the soil of citizen parents.” Our State Department, after the 14th Amendment, created the term Obama used to define his own status, “Native born citizen of the U.S.” which means born on our soil, but not necessarily of citizen parents.” Obama was honest. He was not born of citizen parents, and no legislator has had the integrity or courage to acknowledge the emperor's admission.

You say “But that all changed with the 14th Amendment.” “The 14th Amendment re-defined who was a natural born Citizen.” You have been told that by so many “authorities” that the prevalence of the misconception is no surprise. Here are the words from the Congressional Record (Called The Globe) by the author of the 14th Amendment, Ohio Congressman John Bingham, who was also the judge who prosecuted the conspiracy to assassinate Lincoln:

I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen….

You say “But Wong Kim Ark made citizens and natural born citizens equivalent.” No, the 14th Amendment never mentions natural born citizenship, and if don't trust my claim, read Wong Kim Ark. The first citation by Justice Horace Gray is to fix the definition of natural born Citizen, using the 1874 statement from Chief Justice Morrison Waite printed below. Waite also clarifies that the definition comes form our common-law, from which came most definitions used in the Constitution:

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

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Obama is clearly ineligible to be President. He is not a Constitutional president, by definition. As long as we pretend, turn our heads for whatever reason, we have established the precedent that our executive and legislative branches determine when the Constitution is effective. It was always about allegiance. A child inherits allegiance from his parents. The British didn't even allow naturalized citizens to be in Parliament. Our Constitution permits naturalized citizens to every office but President and Vice President. Obama and McCain are naturalized citizens. It has nothing to do with, and would be unaffected by discovery of a legitimate Hawaiian birth certificate.

[buccaneer81]

There are millions of us, and most are clueless to the fact that they’re ineligible. Too many people grew up believing that old, trite saying, “In America any little boy or girl can grow up to be president.”

[JohnG45]

I am really disappointed.

I am disgusted!!!

Rush, Hannity, Levin (a so-called Constitutional expert) and Laura Ingraham (a lawyer who clerked at the Supreme Court) acted in collusion to not mention a word about this issue. Right from the get-go, when this was first raised as an issue, they did not raise a peep.

A few years back, I remember a poster, on these very threads, recounting how he attempted to call Rush on "Open Line Friday" (which Rush touts as being the day when the callers get to choose the topics to be discussed) to bring this issue up since Rush was not saying a word about it, and was rebuked by Rush's call screener (Snerdley?) who told him, "that topic was off-limits." So much for "Open Line Friday."

Yet, every day they (Rush, etc.) make themselves sound like they are soooo patriotic. What bunk!

[Fred Nerks]

...At this moment in time, we don't have proof of where he was born and we don't have proof of who both of his parents were. Anyone who says otherwise should be asked to show their proof, which they will not be able to do.

LOOKS LIKE - I.D.E.N.T.I.T.Y. T.H.E.F.T.

[Spaulding]

...At this moment in time, we don't have proof of where he was born and we don't have proof of who both of his parents were. Anyone who says otherwise should be asked to show their proof, which they will not be able to do.

Fred, Obama/Barry, swore on a bible that what he has told us is true. If he lied, that will be another issue. We must trust what he has told us. He told us “I was born a natural born subject of the The British Commonwealth.” He told us, again and again, who his father was - British/Kenyan subject, who was incidentally a committed Marxist, anti-capitalist. He told us he was a “dual-citizen.” There is case law, not that it would be necessary, pertaining to dual-citizenship. Dual citizens are naturalized citizens, not natural born. There is no proof necessary. Presuming Obama that might be eligible if he lied sounds like a plot from Kafka. If he lied to attain office, and was born of two citizens after all, he is impeachable. But since he is not eligible, he is not President and cannot be impeached. He must be removed, and there is precedent. At least two senators and a Governor have been removed from office when information confirming illegitimacy was discovered (see http://puzo1.wordpress.com)

[Fred Nerks]

Fred, Obama/Barry, swore on a bible that what he has told us is true.

He took a second oath in private. There is no video, just a snip of an audio with a still image, no Bible:

VIDEO LINK HERE

Then there was this staged image, obviously faked, published on a website I will not link to because I ended up with a TROJAN VIRUS:

IS THIS WHAT THEY PLANNED TO USE? (AND COULD NOT USE BECAUSE THE VIDEO/AUDIO SNIP CAME TO LIGHT?) Remember, no cameras were allowed at the PRIVATE OATH!

If he lied, that will be another issue.

And if you base your CONCLUSIONS on 'what he told us' are you not just following 'Dreams' and forgeries?

We must trust what he has told us. He told us “I was born a natural born subject of the The British Commonwealth.” He told us, again and again, who his father was - British/Kenyan subject, who was incidentally a committed Marxist, anti-capitalist. He told us he was a “dual-citizen.” There is case law, not that it would be necessary, pertaining to dual-citizenship. Dual citizens are naturalized citizens, not natural born. There is no proof necessary.

And you STILL do not know who his parents were or where he was born!

Presuming Obama that might be eligible if he lied sounds like a plot from Kafka.

I really don't follow your meaning.

If he lied to attain office, and was born of two citizens after all, he is impeachable. But since he is not eligible, he is not President and cannot be impeached. He must be removed, and there is precedent. At least two senators and a Governor have been removed from office when information confirming illegitimacy was discovered (see http://puzo1.wordpress.com)

Sorry, I just give up at that point, it doesn't make ANY sense to me. Not at all. You haven't touched on the QUESTION OF HIS IDENTITY! I will repeat the comment:

...At this moment in time, we don't have proof of where he was born and we don't have proof of who both of his parents were.

[hopespringseternal]

Proving he is not a NBC will unelect him and as a bonus would reverse all his moves.

And you say that based on what? The only way to unseat a sitting president I know of is impeachment and conviction.

Even if you produce absolute proof congress won't move on it unless there is widespread political impetus coming from the voters. Producing the proof will not necessarily sway enough people.

[TheBigJ]

Rush, enjoy your best radio days, as they will soon be behind you. Congress, the courts, the institutions of this country will be facing a major crisis. Another one of the consequences of a bankrupt media, lamestream lib hacks and conservatives, is that you will be rendered untrustworthy and irrelevant after the usurper in thief is publicly known to the masses.

Rush said some things, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt because he was most surely threatened (Canada Free Press), however stating b.s. lies or misinfo like Hawaii verified his short form is a laughable. Then to state there in no evidence of a birth outside Hawaii? LOLOLOl

Sir, you have no evidence whatsoever Zero was born in Hawaii. None. Nothing. Nada. All the evidence points to a Kenyan birth. Everything scrubbed, everything hidden. And the media lightweights can keep repeating “Hawaii officials confirm he’s born there” “He’s born in Hawaii and Christian” mantra all they want. It’s not working.

In addition, Limbaugh, we don’t need a magic wand to get rid of a discovered foreign born illegal and squatter. We’ll do it ourselves. Do you think we could depend on you media savants, law enforcement, courts, congress to do a damn thing with all that’s happened? Naw.

Levin, Limbaugh, Hannity will never say what needs to be done, they won’t ever admit on air the enemy within the White House, guilty of treason foreign and domestic. They don’t want a label of hate speech or inciting anything, but the truth of the matter is the enemy is here.

[TheBigJ]

Oh really?

You mean nearly 100 lawsuits around the country on Zero’s eligibility?

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/current-lawsuit-listing/eligibility-case-archive/

You are aware of these cases right? Dismissed on standing, political question, jurisdiction.

I’m curious, how do you think one is going to go up against titan Constitutional lawyers and law firms hired by Zero the Usurper in Thief, with his lead counsel Robert Bauer in the White Hut? Hmmm?

You are going to need adequate and equivalent legal muscle which is very expensive — and that’s easily minimum one million dollars.

[ml/nj]

If he was born in Hawaii after 1959, he is eligible to be President. Q.E.D.

My guess is that you don't know what QED means because you certainly haven't demonstrated anything. He also needs to have citizen parents.

ML/NJ

[TheBigJ]

The other issue that Rush brings up and says nothing about along with RepubiCONS is how John McCain showed his credentials and was vetted. Well, yes he did, and we know he’s born in Panama. Not a canal zone. Not a military base. Colon Hospital, Colon, Panama. He can never be Prez but somehow a phony piece of toilet tissue known as Resolution 511 put forth by the DemRats with full backing of Hillary and Zero (think about that) is worthy of something.

The larger issue across the aisle is the rule of law.

[School of Rational Thought]

The caller was right on the money.

The best Rush could do was bash woman as well as any leftist and claim he didn’t deal with “ifs”.

If he can’t deal with “ifs” then what will he have to say on his show?

[Carling]

Thank you, I already posted about the court cases that have been dismissed. I also brought up legislative approaches, such as a BC requirement to get on a presidential ballow, in swing states such as OH and FL.

Don’t be angry at me because Obomba hasn’t resigned from office, let alone be angry at Rush. I think there are legitimate questions surrounding Barry the Mystery Man, but the question is, what are you, or anyone, going to accomplish by going after Rush Limbaugh and fellow FReepers for not putting the BC at the top of the agenda?

[aruanan]

Rush got VERY defensive, sounded like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar...

Of course, on the one hand, Rush could have been that national talk show host that was threatened with the equivalent of professional death by the powers that now happen to be. On the other hand, there are times and places that are more advantageous than others to bring certain things to light. Such as now when almost everyone except for Barry's coterie of true believers are starting to realize what a complete fraud he is and has been.

[aruanan]

Rush made the salient point. There is no reason to believe that Obama was not born in Hawaii. If he was born in Hawaii after 1959, he is eligible to be President. Q.E.D.

You haven't put forth any argument for which there is a Q.E.D.. There are plenty of reasons to believe that Obama was not born in Hawaii, a few of which are: no official records that he was born in Hawaii, differing accounts of which hospital he was supposedly born in in Hawaii with no official corroboration of those accounts, differing birth dates given by Obama sources, his grandmother's contention that she was at his birth in Kenya, Kenyan officials' statements that he was born in Kenya, newspaper stories from early in his political career stating that he was Kenyan-born. These are just a few and may be entirely explicable; however, one certainly cannot say that they are not reasons for doubting a Hawaiian birth, especially in the absence of anything other than conflicting Obama stories claiming otherwise.

[Texas Fossil]

I think he is a "Natural Born Citizen" because it's going to turn out that Johnny Mathis was his true father.

Ahhhhhhhh! You left out (family friend and BHO mentor) Commie Frank Marshall Davis.

[Texas Fossil]

Well, we are pretty sure that his father was black and his mother was white.

Or Arab. There is evidence that the portion of African in BHO's bloodline is so small that if presented truthfully BHO, Jr. would not meet the definition of being black. BHO. Sr. was primarily Arab in descent and Obozo is less than 1/8 black.

[MHGinTN]

I applaud your so clear exposition of the FACTS ...

But do you realize that you offered such reasoned exposition to one whom works to sow dissonance and discord and disinformation? The one whom you addressed is on 'the other team' working FR.

[rxsid]

"Proving he is not a NBC will unelect him and as a bonus would reverse all his moves.

And you say that based on what? The only way to unseat a sitting president I know of is impeachment and conviction.

Even if you produce absolute proof congress won't move on it unless there is widespread political impetus coming from the voters. Producing the proof will not necessarily sway enough people.

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If he's proven to be a usurper, Congress has no role at that point. It would be up to him to step down, or law enforcement would have to get involved. Unprecedented Constitutional crisis? Yeah. One of the reason's those in a position of power to do any investigation into this haven't? Most probably yeah.

[Wild Irish Rogue]

” ANY of them, at ANY time, could have had an on-air guest who was knowledgeable and articulate about the NBC issue. Not one did. “

Yup.
The big names ignored it, made fun of the issue or took Barry’s word.
The word of a guy they call a pathological liar every other sentence.

Rusty Humphries http://www.talk2rusty.com/ often has on guests who seriously discuss the BC.
Jerome Corsi and Jack Cashill , among others , are frequent guests and Humphries often plays Devil’s Advocate
as a way of eliciting more information.
The subject is always discussed calmly and intelligently , without tin foil hats and conspiracies.
Nothing prevented Limbaugh and Hannity and Beck and O’Reilly et al from doing the same.
They didn’t even need to take a stand one way or the other.
Although Limbaugh did say today that he was going to look into
“ this birther thing “ to see what documents one needed to present when running for POTUS.