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Japan Developed Atom Bomb; Russians Grabbed Scientists
Atlanta Constitution via reformation.org ^ | October 1, 1946 | David Snell

Posted on 04/05/2011 7:20:55 PM PDT by SteveH

Actual Test Was Success

Japan developed and successfully tested an atomic bomb three days prior to the end of the war.

She destroyed unfinished atomic bombs, secret papers and her atomic bomb plans only hours before the advance units of the Russian Army moved into Konan, Korea, site of the project.

Japanese scientists who developed the bomb are now in Moscow, prisoners of the Russians. They were tortured by their captors seeking atomic "know-how."

The Konan area is under rigid Russian control. They permit no American to visit the area. Once, even after the war, an American B-29 Superfortress en route to Konan was shot down by four Russian Yak fighters from nearby Hammung Airfield.

I learned this information from a Japanese officer, who said he was in charge of counter intelligence at the Konan project before the fall of Japan. He gave names, dates, facts and figures on the Japanese atomic project, which I submitted to United States Army Intelligence in Seoul. The War Department is withholding much of the information. To protect the man that told me this story, and at the request of the Army, he is here given a pseudonym, Capt. Tsetusuo Wakabayashi.

The story may throw light on Stalin's recent statement that America will not long have a monopoly on atomic weapons.

(Excerpt) Read more at reformation.org ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Japan
KEYWORDS: atombomb; atomicbomb; godsgravesglyphs; japan; korea; russia; stringtheory; ussr
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To: truthguy
Don’t believe this nonsense.

Yeah. I think this article would have been better posted last Friday.

21 posted on 04/05/2011 8:14:22 PM PDT by NewMexLurker
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To: dangus

And yet the Rerum Novarum also states that “Among the many and grave duties of rulers who would do their best for the people, the first and chief is to act with strict justice - with that justice which is called distributive - toward each and every class alike.”

...but perhaps discussion of Papal Encyclicals in this thread is a bit OT though... :-)


22 posted on 04/05/2011 8:14:53 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SunkenCiv

PING


23 posted on 04/05/2011 8:17:10 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: OldNewYork

Japan’s effort:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_nuclear_weapon_program

The sole research building was fire bombed on April 13, 1945 by B-29s over Tokyo. Totally destroyed their little enrichment project. Basically, it was nothing at all. No chance of creating a bomb. They didn’t have the capabiities like they do now.


24 posted on 04/05/2011 8:18:22 PM PDT by fred2008
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To: SteveH

Interesting history story but very hard to believe at this point. USSR stole the bomb plans from the USA.


25 posted on 04/05/2011 8:23:22 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: fred2008

Well, one can easily argue that the Nazis lost because of their hatred of the Jews. From Einstein to Oppenheimer. The Manhattan Project was distinctly, almost uniquely, a Jewish endeavor.


26 posted on 04/05/2011 8:26:39 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: fred2008

Thanks. That might be why I hadn’t heard of it before.


27 posted on 04/05/2011 8:26:48 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: Spruce

You could make that argument, but they were all trained in German institutions, and Hitler supposedly didn’t give attention to atomic weapons development because he considered it inhumane, even with all the other things he did.


28 posted on 04/05/2011 8:30:05 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: Spruce
The Japanese had access to the exact same science as everyone else on the planet.

I has been proven, time after time, that a new invention is not something that one human figures out. People all over the globe conceive of these new inventions at the same time, and it is only a very, very few who pursue that dream and make it a reality.

It is my silly *ss opinion that enlargement of knowledge/new inventions/new ideas are due to gamma ray radiation from space.

Of course the gamma rays could be having just the opposite effect, for all I know.

29 posted on 04/05/2011 8:30:12 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: Spruce

“The Invasion of Okinawa is what made the atomic bombing of Japan inevitable.”

Yes, that’s the argument I’m familiar with the longest, that it in reality saved many more lives than if an invasion of the main islands of Japan had to be made.


30 posted on 04/05/2011 8:31:46 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: Snickering Hound; SteveH
The Japanese army was able to create a VERY small amount of nuclear material using thermal diffusion. The Japanese navy attempt never got beyond the drawing board.

See.... somebody always has to go and spoil the party with actual facts.

": )

31 posted on 04/05/2011 8:33:50 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: UCANSEE2; Snickering Hound; fred2008

Y’all are no fun. :-)


32 posted on 04/05/2011 8:35:44 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: OldNewYork

It was the Okinawa that made American war-planners take notice. The fanaticism of Imperial Japanese troops was well-known. And taking Saipan was brutal. But Okinawa was something that blew their minds.


33 posted on 04/05/2011 8:41:26 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: Spruce
From Einstein to Oppenheimer. The Manhattan Project was distinctly, almost uniquely, a Jewish endeavor.

Seems they all wanted the same thing.

Just to be left alone. To have an end to war.

34 posted on 04/05/2011 8:44:03 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: fred2008

Haigerloch is a very picturesque little town, in the valleys just east of the Black Forest. A part of it is high on a hill, the rest down in the valley on the river.

At the base of the hill, there’s an old wine cellar that was fashioned out of a cave some time in the Middle Ages.

Late in the European war, when the German nuclear scientists had to vacate Berlin, they sought refuge in the western part of the country; part of their thinking was that they’d rather be captured by the Americans, English, and French, than the Russians.

So that cave in Haigerloch was the locus of their final reactor experiments. When the Alsos project scientists came through, they found the experimenters’ stash of Uranium buried not far away. The scientists too. (Not buried, mind you!)

The reactor had not yet reached criticality, by the way, and they were quite far from making a bomb.

I looked high and low for the roll of film I took there. It also held some shots of the headwaters of the Danube (actually, the Breg river). I think it was the only roll lost out of the 50 or so my ladyfriend and I took in Germany that year.


35 posted on 04/05/2011 9:04:28 PM PDT by Erasmus (I love "The Raven," but then what do I know? I'm just a poetaster.)
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To: Spruce

We can thank the heroes of Tel mark for risking their lives to stop the Germans from transporting the heavy water. I always wondered how factual that movie was.


36 posted on 04/05/2011 9:31:19 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: SteveH

Definitely some interesting stuff to read for later !


37 posted on 04/05/2011 9:32:37 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: SteveH

*chuckle* Distributive justice isn’t state-distributed income. It means that the justice itself is distributive, rather than reserved for the powerful. Rerum Novarum is unequivocable that one’s property is his own, and the state would be condemned were it to seize that property, even for the welfare of its citizens. Further, the owner of that property is entitled to the further wealth which prudent use of the property should bring.

The notion of “social justice” is found only in the fact that it is immoral (and nowhere does Rerum Novarum advocate the use of governmental force to coerce economic morality, nor to define what constitutes a “living wage”) to deprive a worker of a just pay.

How regimented is Rerum Novarum towards a free market? The only specific means that it enumerates for denying someone a just pay are illegal withholding and “the importation of labor” which it sees as depressing the labor market and which it calls “a crime which cries out to the Heavens for vengeance.” (Compare to the child-rapist protector, former slave ranch operator and paganism promoter Cardinal Mahony.)

Do you get the economic presumption to be inferred, that market-distorting excessive Immigration is necessary for an employer to contract for unfair wages. And this is not accessible only through inference: a fair wage is defined by what the market can support!

IOW, yes, the Church holds that people who work hard should get paid enough to provide for their basic necessities. Who could argue against that? But the Church explicitly denies the state the authority to forcibly redistribute wealth, rather only calls for reasonable immigration limitations so as to permit the market to force just distribution of wealth. This HAS to be regarded as all the more amazing, since, well, there weren’t to many people complaining about excessive PROTESTANT immigration very much.


38 posted on 04/05/2011 9:34:46 PM PDT by dangus
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To: OldNewYork

Japan did have a nuclear program, but after Hiroshima were convinced that U235 was so hard to separate, their physicists reported it was a bad miracle, that it would take another year to make another bomb like that. The Nagasaki bomb showed reaction products from Plutonium which they knew was made from Plentiful U238, and any number could be made quickly. MAGIC decrypts gave insight into that level of strategic thinking, and also told us that they would claim their surrender was largely due to USSR entry, to try to deny US benefit of the bomb.


39 posted on 04/05/2011 10:03:34 PM PDT by donmeaker ("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
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To: mountn man

sent where?


40 posted on 04/05/2011 10:04:41 PM PDT by bobby.223
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