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Southwest Airlines grounds 81 planes after emergency
Reuters ^ | Sat Apr 2, 2011 10:57am EDT | David Schwartz

Posted on 04/02/2011 9:16:29 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative

(Reuters) - Southwest Airlines grounded 81 aircraft from its Boeing 737 fleet for inspection after a gaping hole in the fuselage forced one of its planes to make emergency landing in Arizona on Friday, the company said on Saturday.

Southwest (LUV.N) and Boeing (BA.N) engineers will inspect the aircraft to try to determine the cause, Southwest said in a statement. Passengers heard a loud noise and suddenly saw a hole about mid-cabin.

Southwest Airlines is working with the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Aviation Administration on the ground in Arizona to determine the cause of a sudden drop in cabin pressure on Southwest Flight 812 from Phoenix to Sacramento on Friday, airline officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; airlines; airplanehole; airtravel; aviation; boeing; flight812; southwestairlines; swa
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To: xzins
Otherwise, you’d have some internal force pushing its way out and leaving the plane with edges pointing outward from the exiting force.

You do have an internal force - air. At 30K feet, it's pushing out at something like 10 pounds of force per square inch.

81 posted on 04/02/2011 1:48:45 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: driftdiver; Carry_Okie
Something rather strange in that flight record.....

****************************EXCERPT******************************

06:56PM 33.67 -113.97 282° West 410 472 33,400 1,320 climbing Los Angeles Center
06:57PM 33.69 -114.10 282° West 405 466 34,400 -1,380 climbing Los Angeles Center
06:58PM 33.71 -114.23 276° West 400 460 30,700 780 descending Los Angeles Center
06:59PM 33.72 -114.37 269° West 412 474 36,000 -5,520 climbing Los Angeles Center
07:00PM 33.72 -114.51 261° West 428 493 19,700 -10,740 descending Los Angeles Center
07:01PM 33.71 -114.65 260° West 423 487 14,600 -4,320 descending Los Angeles Center
07:02PM 33.69 -114.77 257° West 407 468 11,100 -1,860 descending Los Angeles Center
07:03PM 33.67 -114.88 283° West 369 425 10,900 -60 descending Los Angeles Center

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Notice at 34,000 altitude then went down to 30,000 then zoomed up to 36,000 then back down to 30,000.

That would really be fighting if that is in fact what happened...


82 posted on 04/02/2011 1:55:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Saved for later.


83 posted on 04/02/2011 1:56:11 PM PDT by slotin flash
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe the altimeter was starved for air??


84 posted on 04/02/2011 1:57:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Has Jack Cashill finished his book about how it was caused by a missile yet?


85 posted on 04/02/2011 2:00:49 PM PDT by Strategerist (There is only so much stupidity one man can prevent - Andrew Marshall)
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To: upchuck

That was my thought also. I suppose terrorism has been ruled out already, per sop.


86 posted on 04/02/2011 2:03:07 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Paladin2

That problem was dealt with 50 years ago.


87 posted on 04/02/2011 2:38:17 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many younger conservative Christians out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

There was a case in the 1970s on a National Airlines DC-10 where one of the wing engines had an uncontained engine failure and shot a fan blade through one of the windows, popping it out at 39,000 feet. One passenger was ejected. That’s the only time I’ve ever heard of a hole anywhere near the size of the one on that SWA flight causing someone to be ejected. Aloha 243 lost a massive portion of the roof, something like the first four or five rows of seats were completely exposed down to the floor. It’s a miracle that only the one flight attendant was blown out.

“Pieces of the engine fanblades struck the fuselage breaking a window near seat 17H. According to a witness, the occupant of the seat was partially forced through the window opening and was temporarily retained in this position by his seatbelt. Efforts to pull the passenger back into the airplane by another passenger were unsuccessful, and the occupant of seat 17H was subsequently forced entirely through the cabin window.” (from http://www.super70s.com/Super70s/Tech/Aviation/Disasters/73-11-03%28National%29.asp )

This airplane was a 737-300 that was delivered new from the factory to SWA in 1996. It had around 40,000 landing/takeoff pressurization cycles on it. That’s about half the expected life of a 737 airframe.

}:-)4


88 posted on 04/02/2011 2:46:59 PM PDT by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: wastedyears

>>You don’t fall 30,000ft in most car accidents.<<

You are just as dead at 55 MPH at 3 feet.


89 posted on 04/02/2011 3:10:32 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. /P. J. O'Rourke, 1991)
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To: gorush

My gawd....a 24ft reserve, shot and a half capewells and a motorcycle skidlid? That guy’s going to die!!


90 posted on 04/02/2011 3:10:45 PM PDT by Loud Mime (If it is too stupid to be said, people will listen to it, if sung - - Voltaire)
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To: Loud Mime
Give me a break...it was 1975. D7166. I retired with a..stratocruiser I'm the guy in the middle...

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91 posted on 04/02/2011 3:14:59 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: upchuck
Oh come on, that is purely a simple fatigue failure.
It is simply going to happen sometimes depending upon how that plane was used, etc.
92 posted on 04/02/2011 3:15:10 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Voting for the crazy conservative gave us Ronald Reagan....Ann Coulter)
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To: Loud Mime

Correction, now I remember, it was a “CruiseAir”.


93 posted on 04/02/2011 3:16:42 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Loud Mime

So what makes you so conversant on those cut-away devices?


94 posted on 04/02/2011 3:20:57 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

I had one of the first ParaPlanes. SCS 1299 with six friggin 7-man night stars. Needed a splash for my D. Good going, guy!


95 posted on 04/02/2011 3:22:50 PM PDT by Loud Mime (If it is too stupid to be said, people will listen to it, if sung - - Voltaire)
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To: Loud Mime

SCS 4429, SCR 8604, FFB 693 :{) This brings back great memories, thanks.


96 posted on 04/02/2011 3:26:22 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Loud Mime

The night was right!


97 posted on 04/02/2011 3:27:42 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: catnipman; Paleo Conservative
This plane is relatively new -- built in 1996

I caught a segment on Fox this morning. Southwest has contracted out major maintenance to San Salvador, a location where English is not the language. The feds don't do many inspections out of country and in this case they are required to notify the facility prior to their arrival.

I only fly on Southwest but this may make me rethink my travel arrangements.

98 posted on 04/02/2011 3:41:35 PM PDT by CedarDave (Democrats believe in democracy when they have the votes; when they don't they believe in thuggery.)
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To: Domandred

These numbers suggest that the plane descended from 36,000 feet to 19,700 feet between 6:59 and 7:00 PM, or 16,300 feet in one minute.

In other words, if the data are actually correct, it looks as if the plane descended at an average rate of 16,300 feet/min = 271.7 feet/sec during this one minute period.

So, I don’t understand what the number under “rate” indicates. Maybe my math is bad. Or, maybe someone can clue me in.

Anyway, a 271.7 feet/sec descent can’t be a walk in the park. Because, according to the all-knowing Wikipedia, the terminal velocity of a skydiver is in the neighborhood of 122 mph (or, about 178 feet/sec).


99 posted on 04/02/2011 3:44:23 PM PDT by GOPmember
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
It looks to be the approximate location of one of the fuselage mounted antennas. Could have been metal fatigue where the antenna attaches to the fuselage or when the antenna was last replaced or serviced it was not installed correctly. Just a guess from someone who builds these planes.

You can see one of these antennas in this photo, just in front of the tail fairing.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/8/1/7/1503718.jpg

100 posted on 04/02/2011 3:50:08 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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