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Huge bi-partisan support for taxing the rich to fix budget. Plan B?
SFGate: Politics Blog ^ | 3/31/11 | Joe Garofoli - Chronicle Political Writer

Posted on 03/31/2011 9:01:28 PM PDT by SmithL

Think the budget negotiations are dead? Get ready for something that could contribute to a Plan B: Tax the rich.

We just got our hands on a new poll due out Friday that shows blow-the-roof-off support for something that has only been mumbled about in the most progressive corners of the Dome: Increasing taxes one percent on Californians making more than $500,000. It would raise $2.5 billion towards the state's $26.6 billion deficit.

We explored this issue weeks ago, but few would talk it up then. But now, they might.

How high is the support? Try a whopping 78 percent. Even 60 percent of Republicans and 79 percent of independent and other voters backed it, too.

"Those are the highest numbers I've ever seen. On a tax scale -- that's pretty much a perfect score," said Lenny Goldberg, executive director of the California Tax Reform Association.

The poll, conducted by Democratic pollster Ben Tulchin and sponsored by the California Federation of Teachers, is opening eyes as part of a potential Plan B for solving the budget deficit with its bi-partisan support.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: cabudget; california; cataxes; goldenstate; taxtherich; yourtaxdollarsatwork
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In California, most people, even people who call themselves Republicans, like the idea of taxes, as long as it's on someone else.
1 posted on 03/31/2011 9:01:30 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

What do they do when half those people move to Texas?


2 posted on 03/31/2011 9:08:53 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!)
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To: SmithL

Oh yeah, that will work. In 2008 Oregon voters passed an iniative to increase the taxes on the rich. revenue fell by 30% and a 1/3 of the “Rich” left the state.


3 posted on 03/31/2011 9:14:40 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: xkaydet65

“What do they do when half those people move to Texas?”

Thats my question. What happens when all the producers leave and only the parasites remain?


4 posted on 03/31/2011 9:15:40 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: xkaydet65

“...move to Texas”

We tried for years, unsuccessfully, to recruit physicians to Texas from some excellent training programs in CA. They would get here, say, “Where is the beach? Where are the mountains? I am outa here.”

No longer. I meet more and more refugee physicians from CA that have moved to TX. The new land of opportunity.

The answer to your question is: Let them see how useful all those illegal immigrants are when it comes to trying to boost the tax base.


5 posted on 03/31/2011 9:18:31 PM PDT by RedElement
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To: RedElement

As an indication, between 2003 and 2007 New York State lost nearly $5 Billion in taxes because of the difference in income between those moving out and those moving in.


6 posted on 03/31/2011 9:23:44 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!)
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To: xkaydet65

Or Nevada or Washington, neither of which have income taxes.

If there is ~70% support for increasing the taxes on the rich, then my fellow Californians are nuts. The whole reason state and local spending has gone up here is because we’ve become attractive to the have-nots. Shouldn’t we discourage them by flattening the taxes rather than discouraging the wealthy with higher marginal rates ?

Our income tax already goes up to 10%, and our sales tax also goes to 10%. If those two taxes were FLAT — applied to all income and all sales — they would only need to be 4% each. And that would actually attract businesses and wealthy to the state instead of driving them away.


7 posted on 03/31/2011 9:26:50 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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To: SmithL

Attention Neighboring States: Prepare yourself for the next wave of immigrants!! *Of course, these will be legal ones.


8 posted on 03/31/2011 9:32:53 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: SmithL

78% support for raising taxes on the rich?

Heck, when the 22% move out of state, Jerry can claim it’s now 100% support!


9 posted on 03/31/2011 9:33:08 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: SmithL

Job creating entreprenuers don’t need an exit visa from California.


10 posted on 03/31/2011 9:34:25 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The 0bamaNation of America slides toward death as planned.)
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To: SmithL
Actually, when reading ANY article posted on the Gay-Ronical you have to understand that bipartisan refers to rabidly bisexual progressives.

Once you understand the lexicon, Morford's home (or Homo) newspaper is easier to decipher.

11 posted on 03/31/2011 9:37:16 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SmithL
I read all these very valid comments about people moving from high tax states to low tax states, and I realize that the leftists are probably dreaming of the obvious solution:

Federalize state taxes.

12 posted on 03/31/2011 9:37:25 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: SmithL

I suspect that they only polled teachers!

Cut the school budget another 25% and make the districts lower the teacher pay and benefits and fire the deadwood!

Leave the “rick” alone, they pay too much in taxes now!


13 posted on 03/31/2011 9:38:27 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: SmithL

I don’t believe the story. This a San Francisco paper, maybe in San Francisco.


14 posted on 03/31/2011 9:39:59 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Amnesia Deja Vu, I think I forgot this before.)
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To: SmithL
"The poll, conducted by Democratic pollster Ben Tulchin and sponsored by the California Federation of Teachers"

lolololol

15 posted on 03/31/2011 9:41:28 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“What happens when all the producers leave and only the parasites remain?”

Why isn’t this question being asked more in the public arena ? Political correctness has run amok when we can’t even point out the cause of the problem without being reviled as racist and uncaring.

We need full employment, so why isn’t everyone asking: “What can the government do to facilitate job creation ?” Answer: “Stop taking half of businesses’ profits in income taxes and eliminate regulations to make America the best place in the world to run a business.”

We need to make health care more affordable, so why isn’t anyone asking: “Why do we allow governments and the tort industry to take half of doctors’ incomes ? Won’t they just pass it along to patients, and doesn’t that raise health care costs ?” Answer: “Doctors are rich. If we don’t get huge taxes from them, and plaintiffs don’t get huge malpractice awards, we won’t be able to redistribute doctors’ wealth.”


16 posted on 03/31/2011 9:43:32 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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To: SmithL

Why not just kill the Rich and take their money?

That way they won’t have to wait a whole year to get their hands on the big bucks.

We are doomed...


17 posted on 03/31/2011 9:48:36 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Conservatives THINK people are smart. Liberals KNOW people are stupid.)
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To: dead

My husband says that when the states go bankrupt, the “price” for a bailout will be that state operations and the power to tax (i.e., state sovereignty) are forfeit to the FedGov.


18 posted on 03/31/2011 9:53:43 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Did you see Bill Whittle’s video on eating the rich? It was a riff on Iowahawk’s recent article about how all their money would run the government for ONE YEAR. Then what?


19 posted on 03/31/2011 9:56:27 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
I'll have to check it out.

The funny thing is that the Gubmint could take every penny from every “Rich” person and they couldn't cover the Deficit, much less make a dent in the National Debt.

20 posted on 03/31/2011 10:03:58 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Conservatives THINK people are smart. Liberals KNOW people are stupid.)
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