Posted on 03/28/2011 6:04:06 AM PDT by chopperman
I loved it.
The people who post on these threads and who want to see Obama produce a birth certificate do not need another idiot who believes he knows better telling them to sit down, shut up and redirect their energies. It's been going on for three years around here. Go pound sand, n00b!
I’m not saying it’s a losing issue. You’re hearing what you want to hear and not what I’m saying. I’ll try again, though.
Building up great conservative candidates has no possible downside to it. Getting a good conservative into a state legislature, whether replacing a Dem or a RINO, is pure win, no matter what.
This birth certificate thing has a lot of upside, but it does have serious potential of being a trap if Obama’s holding onto that birth certificate for an October surprise kind of thing. If we get too bent out of shape over it and he pulls out that certificate, we look like fools and we probably lose the White House in 2012.
I’m rooting for Trump to trigger the trap early. I’m just not wasting my own personal efforts with anything about birth certificates.
Right now, I’m working for several potential candidates at the state and Congressional level who are GREAT conservatives. When I talk to others who might be interested in supporting these people, I don’t bring up the birth certificate issue because I don’t see what it gains me in doing so.
What is gained in my efforts to talk about birth certificates or to even worry about them?
Furthermore, based on some of the anger thrown at me over this issue today, are you of the opinion I’m wasting my time with my efforts and should be focused on promoting the birth certificate issue? I just don’t see it.
“Maybe Trump has decided that rather than one big flash, he’ll slowly up the ante day after day to keep the fire stoked.”
Maybe.
He’s a public relations genius when it comes to promoting himself. The question to ask is what is in this for Trump.
It always seems like the ones who can’t stop posting on these threads when its long enough already, are mostly baiting moles.
Listening to Peter Boyles, he said somethign that made my ears perk up.
He said that one of Trump’s strategies is to “know a lot more about the people you are going into battle with, more than they know about you”.
Trump has the money, who knows maybe he was able to buy the dirt ie. College Records, Long Form BC, etc....
And is positioning himself for a grand “See, I Told you So!!” moment that will cement his nomination as a GOP front runner.
Could be interesting.
Well, Trump is in NYC. Columbia University is in NYC. Maybe he has the goods on Obama and his attendance there.
“Do you believe Obama is a natural-born citizen?”
My honest guess is that his birth certificate was amended to say Barry Soetoro, which is why he didn’t show the full thing in 2008. I don’t know for sure what that does for his eligibility for the presidency, though I would suspect it leaves him eligible.
I just don’t see what I can do either way. My efforts are focused on finding good conservatives to support for 2012, both at the state and Congressional levels. Finding them, raising money for them, and talking to people about them are things I can do that I’m sure will help the conservative cause.
I don’t see what railing about birth certificates gains us. Our best hope is that there isn’t one on file there, but that just continues the current situation. If there is a certificate, we look like fools. There’s no way to PROVE he wasn’t born here unless there’s documents floating around in Kenya or something.
“Go pound sand, n00b!”
That’s just sad. Grow up.
If he is holding out the birth certificate because of personal or private reasons he needs to be more transparent...as that is what he ran on. This will backfire on him.
Ha Ha Ha!!!
Was Obummer forthcoming about his relationship with Rev. Wright (didn’t lsiten toall the sermons he attended over 20 years), Bill Ayres (just a guy in my neighborhood), Tony Rezko, etc. etc. etc.
Alan Keyes really did run for president, yet was denied “standing” to sue over this issue. What makes you think that Trump would be any more successful?
Keyes was denied standing because he was not on the ballot in all 50 States, thus it was determined he had no credible chance of winning. McCain/Palin certainly would have standing.
The thing about this issue is we are many running through documents finding information that one in itself could not do. Then we keep this information alive and stir those that wish to have accurate information in the right direction.
If no one continued this conversation then all the information that has been collected over the years would then die. Most of us here are not willing to let that happen. If Donald or one of his lurkers would like to come over and mull through these postings they would find a wealth of information. And I do mean wealth. They would also be able to steer them to folks that have tons of documents proving everything that has been collected.
This is why this will never die!
If calling everyone here a bunch of liberal pussies gets your question answered then ping me. I’d like to see that, n00b.
Yes, it's intertainment and Trump needs some headlines since his show it tanking. With him being a RAT and supporting Hussein, the best we can hope for is he finally realized he'd been sold a bill of goods. As a businessman, he wouldn't like being taken on a scam.
Not only won’t this BC issue die but there is a tsunami of a second wave coming!
What’s this about a nurse? Never heard of it. Source, please.
the man who shot Liberty Valance was a hero til his last day.
the man who can prove America elected a ringer who knew he was a ringer will be immortal politically.
.... just words......indeed
Yes, Hillary did get screwed in the primaries, and also by Soros, who dumped his support of her when Obie began looking like the eventual winner. My opinion is Soros’ intention was to throw his full support behind whichever of the two looked to be going to get the nomination; that Hillary and Obie were both aware this is how it would be. I think they were/are horses in Soros’ stable: either one in the Oval would be fine with him because they are both dedicated to his goal of destroying America. I think the same holds true now for looking ahead to 2012. Hillary and Obie despise each other - but they have that Alinsky brainwashing in common.
Hillary and Soros have apparently “made up”; it was Soros’ daughter’s home where Chelsey’s wedding was held last summer.
And now there are rumors Soros is unhappy with his golden boy. Soros will bend with the wind in his support. Obie is about to crack “leader”ship-wise, and this is why Hillary is being the one in charge of policy over Libya. Soros says “jump” - they ask “how high?” I also think Soros was behind Obie’s abdicating that press conference to Bill Clinton a few months back.
It really smells like Hillary has just entered her third term as president; that she’s on track to replace Obie as the craps’ nominee for 2012.
God help us.
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Interesting. I didn't know that. Just goes to show, you can read here every day for years, and still miss important news nuggets.
McCain/Palin certainly would have standing.
With this WH, and this DOJ, I'm not so sure even they would be granted the mythological "standing" by our courts.
Best stop talking now, before I get myself in trouble.
(Clintons said later that they were staying at Astor Court.)
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/07/exclusive-where-clintons-are-staying-chelseas-wedding
The Hudson Valley News will report that former President Bill Clinton, his wife Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,and Chelsea herself will be staying at the posh estate — known as Glenburn — owned by Eric and Andrea Colombel. Andrea Colombel is the daughter of huge Clinton supporter and billionaire George Soros.
Thanks, I checked that out. I am still curious regarding the BCs from the rest of the country, at different periods.
I was once told that no American BCs denote religion, as in America nobody can force you to disclose your religion. Do you know if this is the case?
He could be deflecting the Obama team by making them think he’s concentrating on the BC when it’s the juicer stuff like the SS# and his college financial records that will bring him down
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