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Reactor Core #3 Is Probably Damaged; Radiation May Increase; Japan Advises Locals To Flee
TBI ^ | 3-25-2011 | Gus Lubin

Posted on 03/25/2011 4:01:14 AM PDT by blam

FUKUSHIMA: Reactor Core #3 Is Probably Damaged; Radiation May Increase; Japan Advises Locals To Flee

Gus Lubin
Mar. 25, 2011, 4:18 AM

Reactor core #3 is probably damaged, Japan's nuclear safety agency said Friday following the hospitalization of several plant workers yesterday.

Elevated radiation could be coming from a damaged reactor core or from cooling water. Either way radiation could increase.

Spokesman Hidehiko Nishiyama told a press conference: ''At present, our monitoring data suggest the (No. 3) reactor retains certain containment functions, but there is a good chance that the reactor has been damaged," according to Kyodo. The government is also considering bailing water out of reactor #3.

The government encouraged Japanese living within 18 miles of the nuclear plant to leave voluntarily.

There have been various reports that Japan is considering upgrading the crisis from 5 to 6 on the nuclear crisis scale.

Prime Minister Naoto Kan is expected to address the nation within hours.

Shares of plant-operator TEPKO dropped another 2.4% in Tokyo, after plunging 14% the previous day.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; fukushima; japan; nuclear; radiation; reactor
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1 posted on 03/25/2011 4:01:21 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Where is the “Just Damn” guy when you need him?


2 posted on 03/25/2011 4:07:54 AM PDT by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: blam

Radiation levels in the U.S., particularly on the west coast, will continue to gradually increase so long as the Fukishima plant keeps spewing out radiation.


3 posted on 03/25/2011 4:13:45 AM PDT by Defend Liberty
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To: Defend Liberty

You would probably get more radiation standing in your basement though. Still, this sucks for the Japanese. and the nuclear power industry.


4 posted on 03/25/2011 4:19:01 AM PDT by RC one ("merchants have no country")
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To: Defend Liberty
A few years ago, I sent most of my relatives a 14 day pack of potassium iodide for Christmas...I worried about possible dirty bomb terrorist attacks.

Anyway, my son (PhD physics), is presently living in the LA area and said that he's not worried about any radiation from this incident but does take comfort in having the potassium iodide. So....

5 posted on 03/25/2011 4:22:28 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
The government is also considering bailing water out of reactor #3.

How would you like to be the guy who gets that job. I'm fairly certain Saturday Night Live made a joke about it back when TMI happened. But the idea of putting humans anyplace near water that has been in that reactor for a serious amount of time is unpleasant to say the least. Water itself doesn't hold much radiation, but if the core has partially melted there are a lot of water soluble oxides that it can carry off. We need to start seeing some of that legendary Japanese robot tech on this project.
6 posted on 03/25/2011 4:37:15 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: TSgt
This is the reactor with the MOT fuel too.Lots of plutonium,so just damn indeed.
7 posted on 03/25/2011 4:44:44 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: blam
There have been various reports that Japan is considering upgrading the crisis from 5 to 6 on the nuclear crisis scale.

I thought this crisis had already been rated a 6.

At any rate they need to entomb those reactors in concrete ASAP.

8 posted on 03/25/2011 4:45:01 AM PDT by NRG1973
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“There have been various reports that Japan is considering upgrading the crisis from 5 to 6 on the nuclear crisis scale. “

Only one more point to go after that - to full disaster.

Anyone pooh poohing any detrimental radiation to our shores - How many days/weeks of even low level radiation accumulation on a 24 hour per basis before someone says WTF?

We hear about- ‘no more that a dental xray, etc...but would you want to have that dental xray 24 hrs a day, day in and day out? What does it accumulate too? Which KINDS of radiation are escaping?

BTW, Chernobyl evacuated a 19 mile radius the 2nd day.

Why is here no hint or demand to cap these things? Stop fiddling around trying to save their precious plants - over the safety of people.

9 posted on 03/25/2011 4:50:49 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: NRG1973

5,000 degree molten uranium/plutonium encased in anything is a bomb. There’s 90,000 lbs of NaCl encasing the rods right now too thanks to the sea water being sprayed on them. What happens to 90,000+ lbs of NaCl when you encase it with 5,000 degree molten Uranium/Plutonium? Nothing good probably. As I understand it, there is no known protocol for this emergency scenario. It isn’t “in the books”. This is the worst case scenario.


10 posted on 03/25/2011 5:04:04 AM PDT by RC one ("merchants have no country")
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To: maine-iac7

they aren’t trying to save the plants, they sacrificed them when they started dousing them with sea water. They don’t know what to do. If it were as simple as pouring concrete on them, it would already be done. This is approaching as bad as it can possibly get.


11 posted on 03/25/2011 5:06:55 AM PDT by RC one ("merchants have no country")
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We hear about- ‘no more that a dental xray, etc...but would you want to have that dental xray 24 hrs a day, day in and day out? What does it accumulate too? Which KINDS of radiation are escaping?

Time actually works on your side. It is getting too much to fast that does you in.

BTW, Chernobyl evacuated a 19 mile radius the 2nd day.

Which goes to show you how much danger you are not in. Chernobyl was worst case -- the core itself exploded spewing radioactivity into the air and environment.

Go outside and look up on a clear day. That bright thing is a giant nuclear furnace, spewing unimaginable amounts of radiation. You are only protected by a magnetic field and an atmosphere that we regularly send astronauts out of. We've even sent them outside the magnetic field.

Our standards for radiation exposure are ridiculously low -- while that is not a bad thing the media is being wholly unscrupulous in their reporting. They are implying that exceeding those standards by even small amounts is permanently harmful. It isn't, not by a longshot.

Notice that they are not telling you how much radiation exposure anyone is getting relative to truly harmful levels. (Except in the immediate vicinity of the plant.)

12 posted on 03/25/2011 5:07:50 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: maine-iac7

How do you cap something that’s already encased in a steel lined reinforced concrete structure? The plants are not designed like Chernobyl.


13 posted on 03/25/2011 5:08:27 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: RC one

Too bad about the hit to the nuclear power industry. This was a 9.0 earthquake and not likely anywhere else and nuclear power is certainly necessary... but oh well. This probably pretty much dooms it in the USA.

Which is all the more reason we have to push for “Drill Here, Drill Now”.

Because if we’re going to survive economically, we need our own energy. And we’ve got enough oil, gas and coal to supply it.


14 posted on 03/25/2011 5:10:22 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: blam
We stocked up some time ago thanks to the continual tutoring by "prepper" FReepers (BTW - THANKS!) I expect we'll never need them, but yes, it's comforting to have them.

What really concerns me for our Japanese friends is that Japan itself is not very big considering it's population. If that arez becomes irradiated to the point where it's inhabitable, and the radiation spreads...God help them.

15 posted on 03/25/2011 5:13:04 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: TSgt
Where is the “Just Damn” guy when you need him?

You ain't kidding. Wow :(

Continuing prayers for the people of Japan and all in harm's way.

16 posted on 03/25/2011 5:15:06 AM PDT by mewzilla (Were members of both political parties in on the Lockerbie bomber deal?)
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To: RC one

Well, I’ve been following this somewhat closely. The Japanese authorities haven’t been forthright with information so I have to read between the lines.

What this report tells me is that they expect #3’s containment vessel to be melted-through soon and want to remove the water around it to prevent explosions. Explosions would spread the Pu-239 and U-235 containing fuel around the area and likely into the ocean too.

The MOX meltdown needs to contact the lining under the reactor vessel, not seawater if it is to be kept from exploding.


17 posted on 03/25/2011 5:16:16 AM PDT by Justa
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To: RC one
5,000 degree molten uranium/plutonium encased in anything is a bomb. There’s 90,000 lbs of NaCl encasing the rods right now too thanks to the sea water being sprayed on them. What happens to 90,000+ lbs of NaCl when you encase it with 5,000 degree molten Uranium/Plutonium? Nothing good probably. As I understand it, there is no known protocol for this emergency scenario. It isn’t “in the books”. This is the worst case scenario.

Well, OK if thats the case then maybe we should all just bend over, put our head between our knees and kiss our asses goodbye.

Come'on there has to be a solution...the Japanese can't simply let this thing continue to radiate for a millenium...and they can't continue to spray water on reactors that are caked with salt. They need to bury the things. The reactor at TMI experienced a meltdown but it was contained in the reactor vessel. Fifteen years later the melted core had cooled and they were able to clean out the melted fuel.

18 posted on 03/25/2011 5:16:21 AM PDT by NRG1973
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To: RC one
Let me know if you get neutron flux radiation in your basement.
19 posted on 03/25/2011 5:17:25 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: blam

Japan Cows Barred From Grazing as Damaged Plant Leaks Radiation:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-25/cows-in-japan-barred-from-grazing-as-radiation-leaks-from-fukushima-plant.html


20 posted on 03/25/2011 5:17:56 AM PDT by NRG1973
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