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Transgender people contest NYC birth-record rule
AP via SFGate ^ | 3/22/11 | JENNIFER PELTZ, Associated Press

Posted on 03/22/2011 8:52:42 PM PDT by SmithL

New York, NY (AP) --

Joann Prinzivalli has gone through a lot to be a woman, and she wants her birth certificate to show it.

Born Paul Prinzivalli Jr., she says she knew her true identity was female by the time she was 4 and broached the subject with a mental-health adviser as a teenager. But it was decades before she bucked family expectations and social pressures, changed her name and underwent electrolysis and hormone treatment to make a change that cost Prinzivalli her spouse, family, home and job.

About 10 years later, she's still a man in one important context: on her birth certificate. She's been unable to change the gender listed on the document because of city rules that she and some other transgender people call discriminatory, intrusive and out of step with recent moves by the federal government and some states to make it easier for transgender people to change ID documents.

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TOPICS: Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: fnyc; freaksofnature
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Attorney Noah Lewis, far left, and transgenders filing a lawsuit against New York: Joan Marie Prinzivalli, second from left; Patricia Harrington, second from right; and Sam Berkley, far right, listen during a news conference in New York, Tuesday, March 22, 2011. The trio are suing New York City, claiming the city makes it too difficult for them to change their birth certificates to reflect the people they have become.
1 posted on 03/22/2011 8:52:47 PM PDT by SmithL
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“reflect the people they have become”

Yup - mutilated men.

Colonel, USAFR


2 posted on 03/22/2011 8:57:39 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: SmithL

But you weren’t born a man! How freakin’ hard is this to comprehend?


3 posted on 03/22/2011 8:58:59 PM PDT by mockingbyrd
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To: SmithL

Sigh...the AP and their fudgepacker, trans-gender freak and fruit stories..


4 posted on 03/22/2011 9:01:28 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO FKBRK)
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To: SmithL

They don’t need their birth records changed, they just need “I changed my gender” certificates. They weren’t BORN the sex they changed to, why should the birth certificate reflect a change due to surgery?


5 posted on 03/22/2011 9:02:31 PM PDT by madison10
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To: SmithL

I still don’t understand how people deal with having these creatures share bathrooms with them. Whose rights are being violated there? Disgusting...


6 posted on 03/22/2011 9:04:39 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: SmithL

“...to reflect the people they have become.”

If it means so much to you, put it on your license plate
(and shut the ____ up already)


7 posted on 03/22/2011 9:07:57 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: SmithL

You were born a man, you ARE a man no matter how mutilated and You will die a man no matter how insane.

This is just people wanting state sanction on their self-deception.


8 posted on 03/22/2011 9:07:57 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: SmithL

Should be standard on applications: Do you have a Y chromosome?


9 posted on 03/22/2011 9:09:30 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: SmithL

You should never be able to chage your BC no matter what you do. It records who you were born as not what your fantasies tell you you are.


10 posted on 03/22/2011 9:12:49 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: jagusafr

Legally for medical liabilities sake, will never happen.


11 posted on 03/22/2011 9:24:46 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama & try him for treason / Homosexuals reject diversity / Unions finally caught for theft)
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Doesn't this create a dilemna for the progeny? By changing the birth certificate, the biological parent literally disappears from the lineage of any given descendant.

It's all so very strange and unnecessary...

12 posted on 03/22/2011 9:28:17 PM PDT by csense
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About 10 years later, she's still a man in one important context....

...let me guess: every cell in his body still has has a YX chromosome pairs instead of XX?

His DNA still says he is male, not just his birth certificate.

13 posted on 03/22/2011 9:33:32 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: mockingbyrd

If I ever accidentally got into a relationship with a trans-gendered person, I would want to know before relations were consumated.

If I found out afterwards, I’d probably never date again.


14 posted on 03/22/2011 9:36:07 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: SmithL

Since when is a birth certificate important, anyway? It’s not like you need it for anything these days.


15 posted on 03/22/2011 9:39:51 PM PDT by Tymesup
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To: Jonty30

like the Crying Game?


16 posted on 03/22/2011 9:43:42 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO FKBRK)
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To: Jonty30

“If I ever accidentally got into a relationship with a trans-gendered person...”

Word to the wise: all the hormone therapies and surgery in the world can’t reduce the size of an Adam’s apple. Some men might have lady-like hands, but check the neck and you’ll rarely go astray!


17 posted on 03/22/2011 9:44:16 PM PDT by Boogieman (")
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To: SmithL

Just part of the leftist agenda to tear down society into a meaningless mess.


18 posted on 03/22/2011 9:47:16 PM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: csense

It is necessary to destroy a culture so you can institute the New World Order.

This is just more chaos to kill the natural family—The goal of cultural Marxists.
God v. Man....either there is a God who designs man or we have only men who proclaim they are gods who design men or whatever....No Objective Truth. Truth has to be destroyed in the Marxist state because all of their PC cr*p makes no sense.


19 posted on 03/22/2011 9:49:39 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie

Couldn’t agree more, friend...


20 posted on 03/22/2011 9:54:14 PM PDT by csense
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