Posted on 03/22/2011 3:06:36 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner
COLONEL Muammar Gaddafi's regime secretly provided information to Britain and the US on Islamic extremists in the east of Libya, according to leaked diplomatic cables and intelligence sources.
The names of hundreds of suspects were passed to the CIA and British intelligence.
“There was a strong, shared concern between Gaddafi and the US and UK Governments about radical Sunni jihadist terrorists, including the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG),” Paul Pillar, a CIA veteran who negotiated with Libya over its nuclear program, told The Times.
Diplomatic cables obtained by WikiLeaks paint eastern Libya as a fertile ground for radical extremism. One source told US officials in 2008 that for young men from Derna, a city east of Benghazi, “resistance against coalition forces in Iraq was an important act of 'jihad' and a last act of defiance against the Gaddafi regime”.
(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.com.au ...
Libya: the West and al-Qaeda on the same side
Libyan Islamists 'join al-Qaeda'
Al Qaeda sets up 'Islamic emirate' (in Libya)
Al-Qaeda commander calls for overthrow of Gaddafi and introduction of Sharia Law
East Libya. Coincidentally, that also happens to be the center of today’s rebel opposition to the regime.
Strong emphasis on the word was.
ML/NJ
So we (and by “we” I mean Obama) are helping along the dream of the New Caliphate. Sweet.
Well gadaffi would do or say everything just to stay in power.
This is for shure.
There is no need to give special attention to his last attempt.
But anyway our war in libya is wrong.
The U.S., France, and Britain now find themselves in the ridiculous situation of fighting for Al Qaeda.
Looks more like Obama’s at war with the War On Terror
"Close political and intelligence co-operation continued until last year despite the US State Department condemning Libya for oppression and human rights abuses in 2009."
This information has been known since at least before we went into Iraq. Libya was one of those unnamed nations assisting the US in the War On Terror. I guess Bush must have forgotten to relay that to Obama.
I'm surprised Bush has yet to call Obama.
The U.S., France, and Britain now find themselves in the ridiculous situation of fighting for Al Qaeda.
Unless we fight against the al qaeda insurgency following the ousting of Qadaffi. We did it in Iraq, and hopefully we’ll at least put up a fight with them after this, but then again, that is HOPEFULLY, and not certain.
Not with this President.
sounds like we’re backing the worse of two evils
Obama Takes Hard Line With Libya After Shift by Clinton
In joining Ms. Rice and Ms. Power, Mrs. Clinton made an unusual break with Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates, who, along with the national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, and the counterterrorism chief, John O. Brennan, had urged caution. Libya was not vital to American national security interests, the men argued, and Mr. Brennan worried that the Libyan rebels remained largely unknown to American officials, and could have ties to Al Qaeda.
The bottom line is that this is now the State Department's war, and the Defense Department is reluctantly following Obama's orders.
And note, that in his public addresses about the war, Obama uses weasel words to avoid stating that HE ordered the attacks.
President Obama just sent this letter to Congress
See also THIS:
Sr. WH Official on Libya: Obama 'straining' truth; "Huge gamble" may benefit al Qaeda
“But because he’s a murderous thug himself, nobody believed him.
This information has been known since at least before we went into Iraq. Libya was one of those unnamed nations assisting the US in the War On Terror. I guess Bush must have forgotten to relay that to Obama.
I’m surprised Bush has yet to call Obama.”
Honestly, the whole Middle East is the equivalent of Hell’s Kitchen on Earth, chalk full of numerous parties killing each other. As far as Bush is concerned, I am surprised that his Secretary of Defense Robert Gates did not relay information from his time as a Bush advisor and gatherer of intelligence to Obama as the next president. Chances are pretty high that Bush assumed that his own Secretary of Defense would do just that, as he passed on from his administration to the Obama administration, with plenty of the information reviewed back then. Anyways, that’s my speculation.
I see
So since Dictators and others who accept torture as a cost of doing business are the best at fighting terror,then we should continue to cede power to our Federal government tell them to do as they fit with suspected terrorists.
If the only way to fight terror was to accept fascism then I am sure we could curtail personal liberties till our leaders see fit to tell us we can have them back.
Like I said what Gaddafi does in Libya,is what will happen and what has been happening here.He represents an ally to the dark side of the West,that pit of ignorance called liberalism.Let the West bring the walls down on him,hopefully it will allows us to get rid of these “Iscarians” within our midst.
“sounds like we’re backing the worse of two evils”
a little Q and A:
Q: Which is more of a threat to the West, Arab dictators or radical islam?
A: Radical islam, by far
Q: Name three sworn enemies of radical islam.
A. the Shah or Iran, Saddam Hussein, and Moammar Gaddafi
Q. So those three are allies of the West?
A. No! The West brought them down, of course!
You need to lean a little further. It’s not clear which direction you are headed towards.
There is a lot we do not know about the true situation in Libya. To you and others - hold off on the premature speculation. It’s a discipline your spouse will appreciate in time.
Well, he inslulted Widdle Barry and he’s an enemy of fervent Muslims who pursue rightous jihad. By all means, the man has to go!! /sarc
Agreed. But I'll bet you a dollar that in five years Lybia will not be the pleasant parliamentary democracy Obama hopes for.
And here's something I don't have to wait five years to say: The entire world was better off leaving the Shah of Iran in place. And that includes the Iranian people.
But we in the West just can't resist preaching and meddling.
PS I can't understand we some folks make fun of another's screen name. It doesn't advance arguments one bit. In fact, it's kind of juvenile.
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