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GARY SHILLING: And Now House Prices Will Drop Another 20%
TBI ^ | 3-22-2011 | Gary Shilling

Posted on 03/22/2011 10:58:09 AM PDT by blam

GARY SHILLING: And Now House Prices Will Drop Another 20%

Gary Shilling, A. Gary Shilling & Co.
Mar. 22, 2011, 12:46 PM

Image: A Gary Shilling & Co.

Last October, when everyone was jubilant about the housing "recovery," Gary Shilling of A. Gary Shilling & Co., predicted that house prices would fall another 20%.

In the five months since, house prices have resumed their decline.

In his most recent research note, Gary sticks by his "20%" decline prediction. We've included a summary and updated charts from his argument below.

(Gary is offering a special discount on his research service for Business Insider readers. To learn more, please visit Gary's web site or call 1-888-346-7444. Please mention Business Insider.)

Housing: Great Expectations vs. Reality

Last spring, many believed that not only was the housing collapse over but that a robust rebound was underway. Investors were crowding into foreclosed house sales and bidding up prices in California, often the bellwether state for new trends.

The tax credit of up to $8,000 for new homebuyers that expired in April spurred buyers and promised to kick-start housing activity nationwide. TheHomeAffordable Modification Program was trumpeted by the Administration to help 3 million to 4 million homeowners with underwater mortgages by paying lenders to reduce monthly payments to manageable size and then paying homeowners to continue to make those payments.

But then a funny—or not so funny—thing happened on the way to housing recovery...

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; housing; realestate; shilling
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1 posted on 03/22/2011 10:58:14 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Numbers were posted here long before he came up with them. Just a simple time and value of money thing. Not only did we have over building but over valuations, you still see idiot agents pricing 50 year old houses at the same rate as a new home. Market has to correct for stupid as well.


2 posted on 03/22/2011 11:05:39 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: blam
20% at least. Not much of a housing 'recovery' when you can't find a job. More houses will come on the market, etc.

That and throw in the rising commodities; we haven't even hit flood season yet.

3 posted on 03/22/2011 11:06:20 AM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: blam

Sadly he knows his stuff.


4 posted on 03/22/2011 11:06:30 AM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: blam

It won’t be much longer before I can buy a decent home with the change in my pocket.


5 posted on 03/22/2011 11:06:30 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: blam
PERSONAL GUARANTEE: Both home prices and the stock market will come *ROARING* back in the not-too-distant future.

COROLLARY: ... and a gallon of gas will cost you $7.

6 posted on 03/22/2011 11:08:27 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Jonty30

It won’t be much longer before I can buy a decent home with the change in my pocket.”

Make sure it’s got a big yard for your farm, cause you won’t be able to buy food.


7 posted on 03/22/2011 11:09:41 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Why did we lose? I wasn't at the top of the ticket ." - Sarah Palin)
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To: blam

Shilling has been the constant voice of reason on the Kudlow CNBC program for years. I see no evidence were his prognostication would be wrong. Things are still really ugly in the real estate business.

I hope everyone is enjoying the New Economy.


8 posted on 03/22/2011 11:12:46 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: blam

combined with the reduced value of the dollar, America’s financial balloon has been shrinking quickly


9 posted on 03/22/2011 11:20:42 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: blam

It depends entirely on where the houses are located. Thousands of empty houses in Florida and California are of no use to those who need a place to live in Texas.


10 posted on 03/22/2011 11:24:31 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: org.whodat
you still see idiot agents pricing 50 year old houses at the same rate as a new home.

Not sure what to make of this statement. Based on the McMansion's I have seen recently against a same size 50 year old home, I'll go for the older home first in half a heart beat. They were just built better.

11 posted on 03/22/2011 11:26:50 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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It won’t be much longer before I can buy a decent home with the change in my pocket.

Raw land prices havee not dropped. The floor is the value of the dirt the house sits on.

12 posted on 03/22/2011 11:32:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Michael Barnes

LOL, location, location, location.


13 posted on 03/22/2011 11:32:59 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: blam
What is really happening is that all of the equity that I have in my home is/has evaporated(ing) and I am essentially penniless with a roof over my head, as long as I continue to throw good money after bad.

The silver lining is that, it is coming to a point when I can simply get out of this crazy state (Massachusetts) and go live somewhere that has sane thinking people in reasonable proximity.

14 posted on 03/22/2011 11:34:07 AM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: central_va

There is probably as many lots ready to build on as there are vacant and to be foreclosed homes. Everytime I drive down the road I see new empty home developments and beside them will be acre after acre of lots with utilities stick up out of the ground. But I also heard the latest con on the radio. The bank has just release these few foreclosed lots. It doesn’t work like that people, file a complaint with the state real estate commission, someone is committing fraud.


15 posted on 03/22/2011 11:40:15 AM PDT by org.whodat
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GARY SHILLING: And Now House Prices Will Drop Another 20%

The corollary is that I will have my property taxes reduced an additional 20%. LOL.

16 posted on 03/22/2011 11:40:21 AM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: blam

It’s going to be tough for the banks and Fannie and Freddie to unload the thousands of foreclosed houses that are empty and deteriorating in neighborhoods from coast to coast. The USA will soon be on the auction block.


17 posted on 03/22/2011 11:50:56 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: org.whodat

This whole housing sham has been fraud from the beginning.

All those ‘get refinanced now’ endless radio ads. The flipping shows on the Home channel. On and on.

But it is bigger than that. There is a HUGE shadow inventory. I saw and read about it on ZeroHedge last spring. In my area alone, there were over 6,000 homes that were foreclosed on, that WERN’T listed! The banks are holding back the flood, to TRY to hold UP the house prices.

And it gets worse. There are two homes on my street that have been foreclosed on. They keep going up for auction, every three months since last summer. I only recently found out what is happening to them. 90% of the homes bought in foreclosure can’t get financing. So, even the homes that ARE foreclosed on, aren’t being auctioned off.

It is a TOTAL mess out there.

It will take at LEAST three or more years for the housing market to hit a bottom.


18 posted on 03/22/2011 12:00:39 PM PDT by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: blam

bfl


19 posted on 03/22/2011 12:00:45 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: kittymyrib

Between Clinton refinancing the US debt with SHORT term notes,
and overturning depression era banking rules,
to ACRON suing banks over redlining,
and the extortion by Hank Paulson for TRAP,

the US dollar will be toast. The question will be...when?


20 posted on 03/22/2011 12:04:46 PM PDT by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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