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WE HAVE STARTED ANOTHER WAR
boblonsberry.com ^ | 03/21/11 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 03/22/2011 5:07:54 AM PDT by shortstop

And so we start another war.

For no reason, with no objective, with no popular support or national interest, at the whim of a president, we start another war.

And sit stunned at another misadventure begun in our name and underwritten with our blood. On the brink of insolvency, our military stretched dangerously thin, we start another fight.

Having capitulated on one, and become mired in another, we start yet a third.

Completely deaf to George Washington’s warning to avoid foreign entanglements.Over the weekend we attacked Libya.

It was supposed to be a UN operation, with us in support, on the far side of the horizon, with refueling and radar and logistical support. But when the rubble started to bounce it was us, from our ships and from the sky, pounding a country that had done us no harm, inflicted no hurt.

In the name of a no-fly zone, we attacked infantry and armor and artillery, in full fight against the Libyan military and police. Young Libyans conscripted into their military, fighting a civil war in defense of their government, fried in their tanks by our men and munitions.

And nobody knows why.

At least not in this country.

There has been no speech to the nation, no causus belli, no building of popular support or resolution of Congress, just the nod of a presidential head and we are again at war.

The peace candidate has become the war president.

And after 40 years, a Libyan dictator has suddenly become intolerable. For 20 years he was the world’s leading funder and bankroller of terrorism. In the 1980s he murdered American servicemen. Some 20 years ago he blew a civilian airliner out of the sky over Scotland.

There were a few sorties and a spanking from Reagan, but the world let him stay and we had no cause for war.

Now all of that has changed.

He has apparently done something worse.

As the wave of uprising spread across the Muslim world, people came out to protest in Libya. And the government suppressed them. Just as governments have done in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Syria and Yemen. The protesters became rebels and mysteriously armed began attacking. The government fought back and got the upper hand and pushed back, reclaiming territory it had controlled for half a century.

And while Saudi tanks rolled into Bahrain the Security Counsel decided that Libyan tanks couldn’t roll into Libya.

And the attack commenced.

We have gone to war with one more Muslim nation.

And in the inscrutable algebra of Obama-Clinton foreign policy, we have selected this one oppressive government – out of all the oppressive governments – and decided to topple it. Untold thousands and millions of black Africans have been uprooted or killed by governments and warring tribes and we have done nothing.

At the very time Libya was fighting armed rebels in a civil war, Ivory Coast was displacing and killing tens of thousands of its citizens. More people being treated worse in Ivory Coast, and yet we sent our armed forces into Libya.

If this is a humanitarian mission, then I don’t fully grasp the meaning of the word “humanitarian.”

And I don’t fully grasp the strategy at play. Tactically, it is clear the president has decided to decimate the Libyan military. But what is the strategic objective?

Has the White House forgotten the “you broke it, you bought it” principle of foreign meddling? Has it been so long since we took down Saddam Hussein that we have forgotten what can happen in the wake of the sacking of a dictator?

Have we not seen the chaotic mess that consumed Iraq? Do we think that any other fate can await a decapitated Libya? There is no organized opposition, no party or personality, just a people who have known nothing of self-government or political organization for almost half a century.

Has no one noticed that in the wake of the Muslim strongman, history has given us the rise of the Islamist? Do we really think that the organizations and leaders of militant Islam are going to hang back and do anything other than leap into the leadership vacuum? In Iran and Iraq, nearly a generation apart, it is the mullahs who have taken over. And it is likely the mullahs who will take over in Egypt and now, possibly, in Libya.

Does the president really think that the world is a safer and more stable place with both Egypt and Libya leaderless at the same time? Does he think that the world’s tenuous economy is bolstered by threats to Mediterranean commerce, African oil and Suez shipping?

And wasn’t Libya the rogue nation that rehabilitated its status by renouncing terrorism and weapons of mass destruction? Haven’t the western nations been its tacit allies for most of the last decade?

Didn’t Libya, wanting our favor, play nice with the world community?

And isn’t there a possibility now that with this war we have unleashed another hornet’s nest of terrorism? If we are going to smash this new enemy with conventional tactics, isn’t it natural to suspect that he will respond with unconventional tactics?

Does the president think that Libya has forgotten how to get bombs on airplanes? Does anyone remember that it was Libya that figured out how to wreak most of the carnage that ripped Northern Ireland for years on end? If the Libyan dictator is a psychotic who doesn’t care for the lives of his own civilians, what regard do you think he has for the lives of our civilians?

And what regard do you think our president has for the will and wishes of our people? There is no groundswell of national anger against Libya, there has been no effort by the administration to either gauge or guide public sentiment. He consulted foreign heads of state, but he did not consult Americans – either on Main Street or in the Capitol.

The people have not been consulted, the Congress has not voted, the president has just acted.

And he has taken us to war.

And like his previous effort in Afghanistan, there is no objective, there is no end game, there is just killing.

Barack Obama rose to prominence as a critic of George W. Bush’s war against Iraq. Unfortunately, he seems to remember none of the points he made then.

Or if he does, he sure isn’t applying them.

We have started another war.

For no good reason.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: libya; obama; war
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Maybe he's daring the Nobel Committee to take back his Peace Prize
1 posted on 03/22/2011 5:07:54 AM PDT by shortstop
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To: shortstop

This is Bork Obunga’s version of Kosovo.


2 posted on 03/22/2011 5:11:23 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: shortstop
Zer0 is pulling for the brotherhood.

france-handle it

And as for Hijab Clinton...

Would you trust her for advice on anything? She's a laughing-stock.

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3 posted on 03/22/2011 5:12:29 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: shortstop

Every word dead on correct, what a sorry damn mess, and the Brits and the french and those great canadian warriors are still trying to find the damn place.


4 posted on 03/22/2011 5:12:29 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: shortstop
Mods please fix title. It should say:

HE HAS STARTED ANOTHER WAR

5 posted on 03/22/2011 5:14:51 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 789 of our national holiday from reality. - It's 3 AM, where is the 'president'?)
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To: BobP

But the stories Bill can tell about the garden hose and golf ball and her when she was younger.


6 posted on 03/22/2011 5:15:06 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: shortstop

Ol’ bob is something of a wack job.

He has some of it right but much reflects his uninformed bias


7 posted on 03/22/2011 5:16:03 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: shortstop

This is the best article I’ve seen on Libya. This is not a war we should be fighting.


8 posted on 03/22/2011 5:17:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: bert
"He has some of it right but much reflects his uninformed bias"

Would you care to elaborate or does your uninformed bias suffice?

9 posted on 03/22/2011 5:19:30 AM PDT by shortstop (Win one for the Gipper.)
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To: shortstop

Yes


10 posted on 03/22/2011 5:20:11 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: shortstop

Good article on libya!
btw. if you look around at the european message boards it´s exactly the same.
Most people are just asking why the hell do “we” have started this?
We just started a war and NOBODY knows why?


11 posted on 03/22/2011 5:22:35 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: null and void
Actually, the title should read, “Obama Starts a War.” To say “Start Another War” implies we started the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, when in fact those wars were started against us when the terrorists hit the towers! Let's think about how we say things! Words have meaning!
12 posted on 03/22/2011 5:23:08 AM PDT by Arcy
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To: shortstop
The sad thing is that plenty of Republicans are supporting him. I just saw an interview with John McAmnesty saying that the US needs to do more, including supplying the rebels, and ole John is on the Armed Services committee.

I will admit that I supported the Iraqi invasion in 2003, but I've since changed my mind, partly because I have two children in the military, but mainly because these kinds of wars are damaging our national security interests and wearing our military down and costing the taxpayer. All of the resources we used on Iraq could have been used in Afghanistan, and should have been. We're coming up on the 10th anniversary of 9/11 and Osama Bin Laden is laughing at us.
13 posted on 03/22/2011 5:25:48 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: shortstop
Hmmmm.......

Wonder if it's occurred to Hillary that a screwup like this could cost Obama renomination?

Think she would?

Naaaaaah! Nobody would do that!! </s>

14 posted on 03/22/2011 5:26:00 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: bert

Looks like a damn good article to me. What kind of bias are you talking about?


15 posted on 03/22/2011 5:26:00 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’m posting this on Obama’s Facebook right now


16 posted on 03/22/2011 5:26:03 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: shortstop
Hmmmm.......

Wonder if it's occurred to Hillary that a screwup like this could cost Obama renomination?

Think she would?

Naaaaaah! Nobody would do that!! </s>

17 posted on 03/22/2011 5:26:51 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: darkside321

It is not at all a case of “Nobody knows why”.

It is, however a case of a large group of people not being willing to admit why.


18 posted on 03/22/2011 5:27:12 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: shortstop

...pounding a country that had done us no harm, inflicted no hurt.

19 posted on 03/22/2011 5:28:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (How can anyone look at the situation in Libya and be for gun control is beyond stupid. It's suicide.)
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To: shortstop

Amen, I totally agree with this assessment.

I don’t think there is a tipping point anymore.

Obama does whatever he wants, we gripe and wait until the next outrage.

We know the country is sliding down the tubes and we have chosen to watch.

Tea Party isn’t enough. It cannot fix this mess.


20 posted on 03/22/2011 5:29:27 AM PDT by dforest
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