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1 posted on 03/18/2011 10:18:46 AM PDT by Scythian
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Won’t kill me in Maine, though.

Tough situation in Japan, just awful.


2 posted on 03/18/2011 10:20:44 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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Duh, don't mean to be disrespectful, but, . . duh!
3 posted on 03/18/2011 10:21:03 AM PDT by de.rm (A prudent question is one-half of wisdom , . .Better mad with the rest of the world than wise alone)
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OMG! You mean that after a Quake and Tsunami that probably already killed more than 20,000 people, a couple more may die of radiation poisoning?

The horror!


4 posted on 03/18/2011 10:21:16 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Allah sucks pig teat.)
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How convenient. B/S!


5 posted on 03/18/2011 10:22:22 AM PDT by mmanager
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I wonder what the odds are now of him committing Seppuko Hara-Kiri?


6 posted on 03/18/2011 10:24:46 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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Not so sure I buy the cabinet secretary’s excuse about not being able to forsee this. It is an older nuclear plant on a beach in a major earthquake zone. To be fair they had an 8 hour window to contain this when the plant was still on battery power and the cooling systems still worked.


7 posted on 03/18/2011 10:25:01 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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Sadly in Japan there has been a lot of corruption and coverups before the accident. The containment vessels may not be as sound as expected.

Wonderful to know our tax money goes to agencies like the Dept of Energy and Int Automic Energy Agency who essentially spend billions and do nothing. They should have had a SWAT team to get gas turbine generators to Japan to get those cooling pumps going by the second day. yeah it would be miving heaven and earth but the alternative is what is happening now.

Based on the crocodile tears - at least one fo the containment vessels must have been breached. I hope it is not the MOX one.

Never let another energy independence crisis got to waste.


13 posted on 03/18/2011 10:31:13 AM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-17/japan-s-nuclear-disaster-caps-decades-of-faked-safety-reports-accidents.html


19 posted on 03/18/2011 10:36:11 AM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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I have done a lot of reading about Chernobyl and everything I read pointed to this. Elena said in one of her articles that the USSR gov’t only admitted that 30-40 people died when the actual number is way over 400,000. From everything my brother who flew through mushroom clouds during testing told me, I thought this would be the outcome. It is a terribly sad situation. Prayers for the people of Japan. They are going to need them for years to come.
23 posted on 03/18/2011 10:39:54 AM PDT by MamaB
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I have to wonder about how to reconcile that with this;

http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/

Scroll down and click this link; Information about the radiation:Monitoring Post out of 20 Km Zone of Fukushima Dai-ichi NPP

Scroll down to "2.Information about the radiation" and click the link "NEW) Basic facts regarding radiation explosure". there you read this;

"Can I take a radiation Can I take a radiation Can I take a radiation exposure measurement at NIRS?

National Institute of (NIRS) has conducted radiation measurement for the people who were working at nuclear energy plant in Fukushima prefecture yesterday and the day before yesterday So far, we have not found anyone who needed the decontamination procedure. Therefore, those who are not instructed to go to shelters or evacuate evacuate by local government do not not need to have their radiation level checked."

There is current information here; Seismic Damage Information(the 30th Release)(As of 15:00 March 18, 2011)

And here; http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/
25 posted on 03/18/2011 10:42:15 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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Did you see this?

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=182524


27 posted on 03/18/2011 10:42:57 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray. For all the latest, check out: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/)
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Japan has had an earthquake, tsunami, nuclear reactor crisis....and their stock market is down a WHOPPING 12% since the quake.

The media has Japan down to bankruptcy, insolvency, evacuate the planet, run for the hills, sky is falling again...


30 posted on 03/18/2011 10:48:33 AM PDT by Professional
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God bless the Japanese.

Prayers for those who labored, and still labor at the plants.


31 posted on 03/18/2011 10:51:00 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray. For all the latest, check out: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/)
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WAIT.......
40 posted on 03/18/2011 11:02:28 AM PDT by traumer
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To: Scythian; ex-Texan; Quix

Thanks.

Ping.


47 posted on 03/18/2011 11:19:24 AM PDT by Joya (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house ...)
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Our country needs comforting from the nuclear disaster, regardless of whether a single rad makes the 5000 mile trek here or not.

There's only one hero that could allay all of our fears, but he has retired to the Peanut Farm, so we have The Emperor Noclothes to follow Jimmah's example of visiting the control rooms of each and every stricken reactor, and stay there until the danger has passed ~

passed like a 3 year old intestinal blockage ~

passed so he'd have someone besides a roomfull of teleprompters to keep him company, and no one would do like Mr. Hanky does.

Mr. Hanky.

For our own POS, no one else could pass like he do.

53 posted on 03/18/2011 12:17:46 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (tic toc tic toc tic toc tictoc tictocictoctictoctictoctictoc------------------------oops)
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He is just an anti-nuker trying to scare people. There is not and never has been any danger, and everything is and always has been under control. sarc/


63 posted on 03/18/2011 1:31:09 PM PDT by chessplayer
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The boss of the company behind the devastated Japanese nuclear reactor today broke down in tears - as his country finally acknowledged the radiation spewing from the over-heating reactors and fuel rods was enough to kill some citizens

Yes, if they hovered directly above one of the reactors for hours and hours, otherwise it wasn't true.
Normal dosage from background radiation is 2-3 millisievert annually: a chest CT scan delivers 7 millisievert. The highest radiation level detected anywhere beyond the site was a single brief reading of 0.17 millisievert at the boundary of the evacuation zone, but on average readings at the zone boundary are hardly above background.

Occasional brief readings of slightly heightened radiation – occasionally reported in scaremongering fashion as "10x normal" – have been detected as far afield as the outskirts of Tokyo, but these are insignificant in a health context. Even if they persisted unbroken for a year, local dosages at such a level would be no more than powerplant workers are allowed in normal times: and nuclear powerplant workers' cancer rate is actually lower than in the general population. Measurable blips in background radiation may be detectable around the world in coming weeks, and will no doubt be heavily reported on, but they will be more insignificant still.
From the same article:
The renowned US nuclear engineer Ted Rockwell, who quite literally wrote the book on reactor safety, has harsh words for this position. He writes:
[Consider] the Three Mile Island (TMI) incident, where 10 to 20 tons of the nuclear reactor melted down, slumped to the bottom of the reactor vessel, and initiated the dreaded China Syndrome, where the reactor core melts and burns its way into the earth ... In the real world, the molten mass froze when it hit the colder reactor vessel, and stopped its downward journey at five-eights of an inch through the five-inch thick vessel wall.

And there was no harm to people or the environment. None.

Yet in Japan, you have radiation zealots threatening to order people out of their homes, to wander, homeless and panic-stricken, through the battered countryside, to do what? All to avoid a radiation dose lower than what they would get from a ski trip.

98 posted on 03/18/2011 4:32:20 PM PDT by aruanan
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RE: Nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people

Other than this boiler plate statement in regards to what a level 5 event rating equates to and could entail as per some international body:

Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency admitted that the disaster was a level 5, which is classified as a crisis causing 'several radiation deaths' by the UN International Atomic Energy.

I see nowhere where the 'Japanese', let alone the weeping nuclear plant chief, are quoted as stating that people will die?

I am pretty sure that this event rating system is based upon plant conditions and NOT deaths anticipated. The deaths anticipated estimates are premised upon many assumptions dealing with Time Distance and Shielding relative to the event.

Level 5 is what Three mile Island was classified as -where are all those deaths?

I will admit to being a nuke worker myself and a product of the nuclear navy (submarines) -I am not a novice; however, neither am I an expert... In my opinion, there is much more hype than facts right now.

Any with expertise care to comment?

110 posted on 03/18/2011 6:46:45 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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Here’s the EPA’s RadNet monitoring data for the left coast and Hawaii:

http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-data.html#california

See what the graphs look like for yourself.

If you think the EPA is cooking the books, about the only thing you can do is a) buy your own geiger counter (Whoops, no you can’t, because they’re sold out, just like KI pills), b) learn how to operate and interpret the readings.

Actually, I think the exercise of buying, calibrating and operating your own Geiger counter would be a very useful thing for some people to do. It would teach them a great deal about nuke physics, instrument capabilities, interference issues, background radiation and the different spectrums of radiation.


124 posted on 03/18/2011 11:24:17 PM PDT by NVDave
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