Posted on 03/16/2011 5:38:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
JUPITER — Toward the end of a 90-minute audience Q&A session at Tuesday night’s town hall meeting, U.S. Rep. Allen West, R-Plantation, was asked by former Indian Trail Improvement District board member Christopher Karch whether President Obama is “legally there or not.”“Who is going to tell us who this man is? Is he legally there or not?” said Karch. “What are we going to do to ensure that, if he isn’t legally there, it doesn’t happen again?”
Said West: “I will tell you this: That is the dog chasing its tail. The most important thing is, it’s the policies. That’s what we have to be standing on.”
The crowd of about 400 applauded, but Karch wasn’t satisfied.
“But if he’s not, it’s treason,” Karch said.
Said West: “You will waste more time worrying yourself to death about that instead of making sure that you expand the majority in the House of Representatives, you win back the U.S. Senate so that you can stand against the policies that are emanating out of the White House…
“What is your objective? Your objective is getting back to a constitutional republic principles and values. If you spend your time worrying about someone’s citizenship, you will never get to that objective.”
West didn’t offer his own opinion on Obama’s citizenship during the public forum. So PostOnPolitics asked him after the meeting.
“He is a citizen. He’s the president. I mean, that’s all I know. I am concerned about his policies,” West said.
Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it."
And I love Allen West, and I think hes right on this.
These two things are mutually exclusive. If one is true, the other cannot be.
Based on the language of Article II, Section I, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are Natural Born Citizens for Article II, Section 1 purposes regardless of the citizenship of their parents.Indiana Court of Appeals, Ankeny et. al. v The Governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels, November 12, 2009.
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The lies continue.
The old Indiana lie. The judge with the circular logic to then issue a simple formal ruling - AFFIRMED was the total ruling. His puke the preceded was not a ruling. To imply otherwise is sick lie. WKA is THE most conversational ruling in SCOTUS history anyway. This Hoosier judge got his marching order and followed them. Put vomit down on paper to be used in forums like this and convince the masses that do not read legal brief that some actual law was made. Well, this ain’t *hitcago.
And - its ‘natural born Citizen’ not ‘Natural Born Citizen’. Abusing and misusing the term in the Constitution shows either a lack of understanding or lack of respect or both.
‘natural Citizen’ follows the father lineage.
‘born Citizen’ is a Citizen (note the capital C is used correctly) FROM BIRTH. When combined - ‘natural born Citizen’ is someone whose father was a Citizen (Obama’s was not) and who has been a Citizen from birth (Obama has not since he was an Indonesian citizen as a child).
Hence why Schatz and Hawaii Democratic Party NEVER declared Obama an Article II eligible candidate. NEVER. Schatz committed fraud and attempted to commit fraud and Pelosi baled him out with the CEO.
But Schatz did not want to commit the crime of declaring a knowingly ineligible candidate a valid one. That fraud - he did avoid.
So quote a hick judge from Hoosierville. But go find out why Schatz would not put his John Hancock on the OCON in Hawaii. When you have that answer - come tell us. Inside guy.
No.
Read what West has said. He has said nothing about Obama’s eligibility, pro or con. He has chosen to concentrate elsewhere, and that’s fine.
Both statements can, indeed, be true. Obama can be ineligible, and we can still (as West suggests) get Obama out of Washington, flip the Senate, and start undoing the damage that’s already been done.
Keep pounding away on the eligibility issue. That’s what I’m going to do. I’d love for him to be marched out of the White House in handcuffs, but that’s a long shot.
I know we have a better chance of shackling Obama in the near term by UNITING and WINNING next year.
We are also instructed to be as harmless as doves, but as wise as serpents.
To be able to turn things around, you have to get Obama out os office. The only way you are going to get him out of office is to focus on the his policies.
Once he is gone, we can then ensure, regardless of the actuality of his particular eligibility, that no other candidate is able to run for the position without meeting the strictest eligibility test.
The emperor's new clothes are just lovely.
This long-form Hawaiian birth certificate does not exist.
America has changed its name to Absurdistan!
Alan West is right.....we must defeat Maobama in 2012 based on his policies which are destroying America!
Good luck with that.
Then you are adding to the Constitution what you want to be there. In the Constitution, it does not require anyone to verify natural born status.
Cue Final Jeopardy tune "Think!"
He is being protected because of circumstance and that he is useful.
It is also probable that a few Republicans have checked the issue out, but there is too little evidence to be able to bring out more than a few accusations.
Once Obama is out of office, his usefulness will cease and so will his protection. what isn’t possible now will be doable in the future.
However, attacking his insane policies now is very much doable. I’d rather have him gone based on his public record, rather than him gone, because we found the faintest of provable documentation about his ineligibility.
It is the dictionary for how the government is to act. That is what it defines. It defines what rights are protected against the government.
Once again...your assertion...
Once he is gone, we can then ensure, regardless of the actuality of his particular eligibility, that no other candidate is able to run for the position without meeting the strictest eligibility test.
My questions...
How do you suppose that is going to happen? There is no means of verifying eligibility now so how will it be performed in the future?
nonsense. West is about as conservative as they come.
When every officer of government, at every level and in every branch, has sworn before God to defend the Constitution, the idea that no one is responsible to do so is ridiculous.
It is your way of thinking that has led us to where we are. Nobody is responsible, and therefore even the simplest principles and provisions of the Constitution are rendered entirely of no effect.
Why did you reply to yourself but tag me?
Maybe thinking would be a good idea for you. If the Constitution does not define natural born, then how can someone be out of compliance with the Constitution on that issue? How can you be guilty of something that is not defined in the document you are using to show guilt?
It is the dictionary for how the government is to act. That is what it defines.
It defines what rights are protected against the government.
O-M-G! I actually feel sorry for you and that's hard to accomplish.
Well, maybe in today's Republican Party.
But he's not pro-life.
I note that even though you agree with him that it's alright to kill some babies, those whose fathers are criminals, you didn't jump in with him and defend his equally egregious "health of the mother" exception. Why is that?
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