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Allen West to birthers: focus on Obama policies instead
Palm Beach Post ^ | February 23rd, 2011 | by George Bennett

Posted on 03/16/2011 5:38:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

West speaks to a crowd of about 400 at Tuesday night's town hall meeting in Jupiter.

JUPITER — Toward the end of a 90-minute audience Q&A session at Tuesday night’s town hall meeting, U.S. Rep. Allen West, R-Plantation, was asked by former Indian Trail Improvement District board member Christopher Karch whether President Obama is “legally there or not.”

“Who is going to tell us who this man is? Is he legally there or not?” said Karch. “What are we going to do to ensure that, if he isn’t legally there, it doesn’t happen again?”

Said West: “I will tell you this: That is the dog chasing its tail. The most important thing is, it’s the policies. That’s what we have to be standing on.”

The crowd of about 400 applauded, but Karch wasn’t satisfied.

“But if he’s not, it’s treason,” Karch said.

Said West: “You will waste more time worrying yourself to death about that instead of making sure that you expand the majority in the House of Representatives, you win back the U.S. Senate so that you can stand against the policies that are emanating out of the White House…

“What is your objective? Your objective is getting back to a constitutional republic principles and values. If you spend your time worrying about someone’s citizenship, you will never get to that objective.”

West didn’t offer his own opinion on Obama’s citizenship during the public forum. So PostOnPolitics asked him after the meeting.

“He is a citizen. He’s the president. I mean, that’s all I know. I am concerned about his policies,” West said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; west
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To: workerbee

In the world of politics, it doesn’t matter how right you are if the position you take is an unelectable one. I understand your position. I think Obama should be required to produce documentation when running for office.

However, he is now the president and the damage he is doing is much bigger than the issue of his birth certificate. You’re not going to get this and no Republican candidate wants to risk tying his political fortunes to a highly risky situation as this.

As I said, if it turns out that Obama was always eligible, those who are birthers will be directly responsible for his re-election.

I wouldn’t bet against that possibility if I were you.


141 posted on 03/16/2011 7:33:22 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Squantos

Lt Col. Alan West was forced to retire after firing a pistol near the head of a captured Moslim who knew of an imminent ambush. Prior to the shot being fired, the Moslim terrorist had refused to talk. After the shot, he talked and the ambush was a success for our troops, not the Moslims.

Libtards across America began to hyper-ventilate in unison, adn West was forced to retire.

He then ran for the Congressional seat of one Ron Klein, Democrap, FL. Klein was the West palm Beach CongressCritter, white, Jewish, Liberal. West, a black, Christian, Conservative beat Klein - thereby proving that perhaps there may be a just G*d after all.

Maybe.

For the Libtards of that District, home of the ‘butterfly ballot’ and home habitat of one ‘Chad, Hanging’, to vote for a black conservative ex-military man is remarkable.

West is a man of character. Having said that, I rest my defense of him.


142 posted on 03/16/2011 7:42:04 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Jonty30
In the world of politics, it doesn’t matter how right you are if the position you take is an unelectable one.

"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul."

And what does it profit the nation to "win" with politicians who won't keep the simplest requirement of their oath of office to defend the Constitution?

143 posted on 03/16/2011 7:42:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (There's way more FUD in the air than there is radiation.)
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To: EternalVigilance

“The first question for conservatives should be whether or not they will keep their oath to defend the Constitution, come hell or high water.”

I agree completely.


144 posted on 03/16/2011 7:46:22 PM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: GladesGuru
West is a man of character.

As this situation shows, West is a politician, in a time when our nation desperately needs principled statesmen.

145 posted on 03/16/2011 7:46:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (There's way more FUD in the air than there is radiation.)
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To: Jonty30

You keep ascribing positions to me that I don’t hold. Your comments would be better directed to EternalVigilance, not I.

Good night now. I hope we can converse again.


146 posted on 03/16/2011 7:49:18 PM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: Raider Sam
"In relation to Obama? With what is legally known, what can be done according to the Constitution?"

The twentieth amendment, section three REQUIRES that Congress ensure the eligibility status of a President elect and if he/she is ineligible to serve, must name a replacement.

The burden of proving eligibility is on the President elect . This means that there is no way that someone who cannot prove eligibility can LEGALLY serve as President. If Congress does not have the answer as to whether or not Obama is "legal" or not, then the mere absence of such evidence is proof that he is in fact illegal.

What can be done? My opinion is that we are still not under the beginning of a Presidential term in office because such a term can only begin with a legal President. This means that section three is still in play and anyone under the oath of office from Article six can demand to see documentation that Obama meets the eligibility requirements for President.

147 posted on 03/16/2011 7:57:42 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: GladesGuru

No need to defend him from me, sorry if I sparked such or implied.

....I know of the “interrogation” event and I stand behind and for the man for doing such. My die hard rule for polidiots is proven track record and accountability, which he is establishing as a congress critter now hopefully and no celebrity fast food society unknowns. West is none of those IMO.

I am never sorry for asking a question ......:o)

Stay safe !


148 posted on 03/16/2011 7:58:04 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: TauntedTiger

New tagline...


149 posted on 03/16/2011 8:01:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You swore to defend the Constitution. We expect you to do so. Is that unreasonable?)
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To: EternalVigilance
Your objective is getting back to a constitutional republic principles and values.
What an absurd thing to say when you've just told everyone to forget about following what the Constitution says.
150 posted on 03/16/2011 8:07:29 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: jcsjcm
There is nothing he can do about it.
BS! With the clout he supposedly has he can persuade Congress to conduct an investigation. He doesn't have to announce it to the world, but he can do something.
151 posted on 03/16/2011 8:10:22 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Yeah. It’s called talking out of both sides of your mouth. Which is what he also does on abortion.


152 posted on 03/16/2011 8:11:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You swore to defend the Constitution. We expect you to do so. Is that unreasonable?)
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To: cripplecreek
...those who treat anyone who disagrees as an enemy.
The audacity and mendacity of your statement, given your comments towards me in the past (and I know you know what I'm talking about) is simply mind boggling!

Do I need to remind you? It's just a few clicks away. (something on the lines of..."your one of those"...)

153 posted on 03/16/2011 8:15:31 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Just don’t care enough about you to be bothered by anything you say.

You may go now.


154 posted on 03/16/2011 8:17:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Uncle Sham

Thats not what section three says. Here is the text:

If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

All it does is say how Congress will appoint a new President if the current doesnt qualify. It does not mention who is responsible and it does not require Congress to ensure eligibility.


155 posted on 03/16/2011 8:18:55 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

CITIZEN -—> Not Necessarily Equals -—> NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

He didn’t say anything we don’t already know, which means he didn’t deny he’s not a natural born citizen.

_______________________________________________________________________________

As my tagline says - non-denials denials were famous during Watergate.

Here we have a similiar situation. “He is a citizen.” is a form of non-denial denial. But is he an Article II “natural born Citizen”?

No one, including Mr. Clark is answering that. Even the infamous FTS says he is a ‘native-born citizen’.

The all have their talking points for them. No one wants to face the issue. No one really wins. But the only thing holding us together as a republic is trampled on.

Mr. West - you have spit on the very constitution you swore to uphold with your knowingly evasive response. Man up.


156 posted on 03/16/2011 8:30:27 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Raider Sam

So, is it your position that it is no one’s duty to follow the simplest provisions of the Constitution?

My position is that it is the duty of everyone who has taken the oath.


157 posted on 03/16/2011 8:32:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You swore to defend the Constitution. We expect you to do so. Is that unreasonable?)
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To: Raider Sam
Where does the Constitution define natural born citizen?
Where does the Constitution define anything?
It's not a dictionary.
158 posted on 03/16/2011 8:34:02 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: EternalVigilance

I’m a birther. I don’t believe Barack Obama is constitutionally eligible to serve as President.

And I love Allen West, and I think he’s right on this.

Obama is a disaster as President. Unlike 2008, he is extremely vulnerable on the issues and even on his vaunted narcissistic personality.

I say keep digging to document his true life story, because history needs to tell the truth of his deception.

But we must get him out of office, and doing it on constitutional grounds is very very hard.. West’s way is the easiest. Simple as that.


159 posted on 03/16/2011 8:38:42 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: cripplecreek
Just don’t care enough about you to be bothered by anything you say.
Yet you took the time to respond. How telling.

You may go now.
Translation - you're going to run away...again!

160 posted on 03/16/2011 8:40:49 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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