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1 posted on 03/16/2011 2:02:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Plenty of jets in the Arab world. I suggest they use them.


2 posted on 03/16/2011 2:04:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

just more musings from a not serious candidate. /s


3 posted on 03/16/2011 2:06:07 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (I am declaring 2011 the year of ME.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The UN doesn’t have an air force (yet); I don’t know why nations depend upon the UN. The sovereign states in the Arab world do. If they felt so much empathy for the rebels......they can kick in.

I disagree with Palin on this one. We need to stay out of it. We are broke.


6 posted on 03/16/2011 2:08:42 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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I say it would make for some real-world training. I don’t have a problem with it.


7 posted on 03/16/2011 2:08:49 PM PDT by Sarah-bot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Arab League was founded in Cairo in 1945 by Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Transjordan (Jordan, as of 1950), and Yemen.


8 posted on 03/16/2011 2:12:30 PM PDT by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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Palin was exactly WRONG in calling for a no fly zone as that would only encourage other uprisings in the middle east. If you guys think that these rioters in the middle east are looking for democracy you’re smoking some really good stuff! If they win so does the Muslim brotherhood and you will see radical Islam sweep across most of the oil producing states like a wildfire. Much as I hate to say it but we should have been supporting Q-daffy and the other dictators in the middle east not encouraging revolt. I would love to see Q-daffy get what’s coming to him but not at the expense of destabilizing the entire region. Also, do we really need another place for our young men to die in for no good reason? We already have two and it is costing us a fortune in both money and lives.


9 posted on 03/16/2011 2:14:32 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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Members of the Arab League have planes. It’s their part of the world; they should do it. It will get us nowhere. They will still hate us.


10 posted on 03/16/2011 2:17:35 PM PDT by jgpatl (What was right is now wrong. What was wrong is now right.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All that the main European powers should’ve done is threaten to shoot down any Libyan Air Force plane that dared to take off and the pilots would’ve flown their planes to Egypt for asylum.

But then again, not even Gaddafi takes the Euros seriously — they depend on his oil. What the Euros really wanted is for big bad US to do their dirty work. No Euro-weeny wants to see their Muslims protest in the streets.


11 posted on 03/16/2011 2:18:06 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism = Communism under the guise of compassion.)
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Because they agree with palin we're suddenly supposed to give a fig what the Arabs want?

I wonder, has palin detailed her knowledge of exactly who the 'rebels' are, of who backs them of what their agenda is or of how they will govern?

Has she detailed exactly what the benefit of an exorbitantly expensive, necessarily open-ended NFZ would be to the people of our country?

Has she proposed what to do about attack helicopters, which are not grounded effectively by a NFZ?

Has she discussed what we would/should do if, as in the Balkans, one of our planes goes down?

Has she explained why we should intervene in Libya, as opposed to the dozen or so other rebellions against totalitarian regimes that are being waged around the world?

The answer to all the above is "no".

I guess it's pretty difficult to tweet all that.

12 posted on 03/16/2011 2:19:35 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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What I would advocate is sending B-2’s to take out most of their air assets and some of their ground assets. I mean quafdaffy cant have that many targets! Then, let the Europeans via NATO do the clean-up with a no fly zone, since they benefit from Libya’s oil the most.


15 posted on 03/16/2011 2:31:01 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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Mr Chalabi recounted in the Wall Street Journal how President George H. W. Bush’s 1991 call for a popular uprising against Saddam had been heeded by the Iraqi people, only to have Saddam then murder some 30,000 of them from helicopter gunships while the Western world stood by.....

Did this actually happen to the tune of 30,000 people ? I don't remember hearing that.

21 posted on 03/16/2011 3:16:23 PM PDT by Red Boots
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IMHO...

The U.S. should not be aiding or even commenting on the overthrow of a government unless we know exactly who the revolutionaries are and what their intent is, thereby enabling us to know if they would constitute a friend or foe.

Sarkozy wanting someone else to intervene is a big unknown to me, because I don’t know if he knows the id and intent of the revolutionaries and prefers dealing with them instead of qwadaffy, or he’s just generically supporting some vague concept of “freedom fighters” assuming the revolution is a good thing, or perhaps he has some reason specifically to want qwadaffy out, even though without knowing who the successors are that would also be a high risk move.

As Europe is Libya’s customer, perhaps they know who they want in there, but somehow I tend to think they don’t know what they’re getting into. The telltale sign of this is that they are not simply taking the action independently, they’re wanting someone else to do it. This leaves them free to ridicule “mistakes” in the future, as well as avoid political mess at home if they attempt to intervene and fail. Of course, anything more than a small operation could quickly become economically unfeasible. France does seem to be very tentative nowadays. It seems to me to be related to the insolvency of the U.S. government and the limitations it imposes on our ability to step in and play peacemaker.

Conservative candidates would be well advised to not assume that the opposite of Nobama is the correct decision, as tempting as that may seem. For the Nobama, this is probably a case of getting tired of foot-in-mouth syndrome and wanting to essentially “take a pitch” on this one. He appears to be keeping his communication to a minimum and keeping it just to generic blurbs, attempting to just ride out the next two years so relection won’t be eliminated by a huge, public, glaring mistake. They’re probably trying to figure out whether he will even be able to run based on some states wanting to see the original BC, which, of course, would also cause him to just bow out.


24 posted on 03/16/2011 3:41:50 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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Sarah Palin is right and is a real leader. Imam Barak Husain Obama is a stupid coward and has disgraced the USA.


25 posted on 03/16/2011 3:44:58 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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26 posted on 03/16/2011 3:46:10 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
On the Libya crisis, she proposed a no-fly-zone to protect the armed and un-armed opposition to the Qaddafi regime. Mrs. Palin's formulation had been blogged about for nearly a week when it was echoed by the man who, before the Iraq war, had led the Iraq democratic movement in exile, Ahmed Chalabi.
Destruction of the mullahcracy in Iran, followed by the annihilation of the Saudi regime, and US administration of the entire oil supply of the gulf -- under the auspices of the UN, but only on paper -- would end world terrorism.


51 posted on 03/16/2011 6:40:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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President Palin is America's only hope


55 posted on 03/16/2011 7:16:00 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now, and in the future)
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I suggest Europe see to Qaddaffy.
They have been buddies with him for a while ... and anyway, all they do is bitch and complain if we do anything anywhere.


68 posted on 03/17/2011 8:34:30 AM PDT by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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No more. Bring our troops home. There will be plenty of fighting to do here soon enough.

82 posted on 03/17/2011 4:53:49 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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“Mrs. Palin also continues to link America’s energy policy — a realm in which she has experience — and U.S. foreign and anti-terrorism policies. She recognizes that the ongoing transfer of billions of U.S. petro-dollars to unstable or even hostile Mideast regimes has, since the formation in 1973 of the Organization of Petoleum Exporting Countries, been an drain on U.S. financial resources.”


104 posted on 03/19/2011 10:09:19 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (The political 2012 is here....Let's get it done !)
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