Posted on 03/16/2011 2:02:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The call by the Arab League for Western military intervention in an Arab state in this case asking that a UN no-fly zone be imposed over Libya is not only without precedent but it puts in formal terms what Governor Palin stated three weeks ago should have been Americas response to the political and humanitarian crisis now unfolding there.
The former GOP vice presidential candidate was being interviewed on February 23rd on national television by Sean Hannity on a range of issues. On the Libya crisis, she proposed a no-fly-zone to protect the armed and un-armed opposition to the Qaddafi regime. Mrs. Palins formulation had been blogged about for nearly a week when it was echoed by the man who, before the Iraq war, had led the Iraq democratic movement in exile, Ahmed Chalabi.
A long-time foe of Saddam Hussein who has emerged as a leading figure in Iraqs democratically elected legislature. Mr Chalabi recounted in the Wall Street Journal how President George H. W. Bushs 1991 call for a popular uprising against Saddam had been heeded by the Iraqi people, only to have Saddam then murder some 30,000 of them from helicopter gunships while the Western world stood by.....
(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...
All I have to do is look at who is one of the biggest cheerleaders for a NFZ. Hint: he is from Arizona and crosses the aisle too much. LOL
This is probably where this idea came from.
1) Playing 'World Cop' isn't our job.
2) Especially in the ME where the neo-slimes are just waiting to swoop in and clean up with MORE big oil deals. (Paging Richard Perle. Satan is holding on line two)
I agree with you.
As the Mideast despots fall like dominoes, one can only applaud the Colossal Failure of the pukeneos finagling US foreign policy.
Duping the US into raining trillion of US dollars into Mideast hellholes made these ME dictators rich beyond imagination.
Course the conniving pukes take a cut of the swag.
Puke guru Perle announcing his ME oil biz plans shows how despicable the Me-First pukes really are.
“All a No Fly Zone is, is neo con speak for nation building.”
...and neo con is nutty buddy speak for people strong on national defense.
Heh-—you nailed it-—but good.
———As the Mideast despots fall like dominoes-——
That would be domino. There is only one, Mubarack of Egypt, and some wonder if he was really a despot .
I suggest Europe see to Qaddaffy.
They have been buddies with him for a while ... and anyway, all they do is bitch and complain if we do anything anywhere.
... aided and abetted by our European 'allies'. Let Europe deal with him. I personally hope he (or other Arab tyrants) is a threat to some of our backstabbing 'allies'.
Absolute hogwash.
Neocon is a term coined by neoconservative godfather and "disillusioned liberal intellectual" himself, Irving Kristol. And his vision was far from being "strong on national defense" (although his followers enthusiastically push for the use of U.S. military force to pursue their own self serving objectives -- ref: Richard Perle Iraqi Oil biz, etc.) Instead they talk in terms of "national interest," justifying peremptory action in every crack, corner, and crevice of the world if it serves them. Any talk of "national defense" is usually the U.S. defending nations other than the U.S. Neocons see nothing wrong with a big government imposed (and enforced) social agenda, the Constitution be damned. These were Marxist loving liberals that supposedly became enlightened (ha ha!) They decided that the Republican Party was the perfect place to push through their alternative (definitively NOT conservative) agenda.
If you need some references from Kristol to enhance you education, I'm sure Liz could give you a few.
... aided and abetted by our European 'allies'. Let Europe deal with him. I personally hope he (or other Arab tyrants) is a threat to some of our backstabbing 'allies'.
Okay. The Lorianne Doctrine is that we will leave it those who aid and abet the murder of U.S. citizens, to bring the murders to justice.
Obamas sex life is really improving as the pukeneos line up under the Oval Office desk. Obama installed a Take-A-Number machine to control the neo traffic. Here's hoping Obama's got the stamina for all the lewinskys coming his way (/snix).
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The Decline and Fall of American Conservatism--by Fox talking head Billy "The Smirk" Kristol
The art of government, writes neocon high priest William Kristol, is to translate the liberal or radical impulse into enduring institutions, which in a constitutional republic means that neocons want socialist ends to be achieved with conservative means. Now here's the neocon methodology in brief: neocon advice to the Republican Party is to compromise and accept the moral ends of liberal-socialism, but with the caveat that conservatives can do a better job of doling out the goods and services.
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As Billy's late daddy, Irving Kristol, once wrote:.....the historical task and political purpose of neo-conservatism would seem to be this: to convert the Republican party, and American conservatism in general, against their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy. August 25, 2003 issue Weekly Standard.
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The neocons squat in the Republican Party to contribute to the stupid party as they call Republicanism ----to create two Democrat parties. They want a complete destruction of the American political system.
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BTW, there is a reward out for anyone who can determine what Billy Kristol and the rest of the pukeneos actually do for a living. None of the pukeneos have any visible means of support, unless you count:
(1) media prostitution,
(2) editing stupid magazines subsidized by offshore wire transfers,
(3) infiltratng the US government,
(4) endless think-tank pontificating on how nice it is to goad the US military into invading foreign countries of the pukes choosing,
(5) cheerleading amnesty, National Greatness, America as Empire, endless war, and John McCain,
(6) squatting in the Repub Party, hoping to destroy it from within,
(7) religious cleansing of the Repub Party, and,
(8) kicking so/con Repubs to the curb.
"National defense." Yeah, right. LOL. ---------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Perle (snip)
Adviser to Muammar al-Gaddafi
As a member of the Cambridge, Massachusetts-based consulting firm Monitor Group, Perle was an advisor to Libyan dictator Muammar al-Gaddafi in 2006.[26] "Perle traveled to Libya twice in 2006 and met with Vice President Dick Cheney after the trips."[27] According to Monitor documents, Perle traveled to Libya with several other advisers to hold lectures and workshops, and promote the image of Libya and its ruler.[26]
Iraq oil deal> In July 2008, The Wall Street Journal reported that Perle had made plans to invest in oil interests in Iraq, in collaboration with Iraqi Kurdish leaders in northern Iraq.[28]
Thanks for posting the references, Liz. I had my hands full and didn’t have time to go digging.
You know, I wonder how many more of these guys have these sleazy arrangements. You have Perle working with Qaddafi to improve his image while engaging in private oil deals. You also had Jack Kemp working for the Venezuelans to improve perceptions of the Chávez government while being a
beneficiary of a billion-dollar deal with the state-owned Venezuelan oil company. And that was shortly after Kemp being implicated in Saddam’s oil-for-food scandal.
I really wonder about those who support these crooks. Are they complicit or blind?
If we want to bring Qadaffy to justice we can do that easily enough ... as we could have with Sadaam.
The Lorianne Doctrine is letting the people who are most closely threatened by dictators or tyrants deal with those dicatators and tyrants themselves ... especially those ‘allies’ who are in the habit of dissing us when we are doing their dirty work for them.
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LOL — you ain’t alone!
No, not blind-----these people are rank opportunists----getting in on dream deals. They connive to get into position of power b/c they have know it will reap benefits to THEM.
Bush made a deal w/ the neos BEFORE he was elected to invade Iraq---to get votes. It was a done deal, and when Bush was elected neos had their own Office of Special Plans in the WH w/ high paying jobs---AND access to top secret info in order to orchestrate the ME invasion----they had a secret list of other countries the US was to invade.
BTW, one of Bush's top aides was fired b/c he dared to suggest the neocons were low-balling Bush and that the Iraq invasion could cost as much as $60 billion.
Bush stupidly went on the aircraft carrier to declare "Mission Accomplished." That was about 8 years ago.
Trillions of dollars later, and still counting, we know Iraq went horribly wrong.
We can only hope that Bush realized he had been duped when the Office of Special Plans (September 2002 to June 2003) went kaput.
Tell me, was Ronald Reagan a Neo-con?
“Instead they talk in terms of “national interest,”
The “national interest” is a common term used in foreign policy and national security.
“justifying peremptory action in every crack, corner, and crevice of the world if it serves them”
Interesting could you list these “neo-con” actions in every crack and corner”?
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