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City agrees to lower test scores for police exam
http://www.daytondailynews.com/ ^ | Thursday, March 10, 2011 | Lucas Sullivan, Staff Writer

Posted on 03/11/2011 8:11:55 PM PST by B4Ranch

DAYTON — The city’s Civil Service Board and the U.S. Department of Justice have agreed on a lower passing score for the police recruit exam after it was rejected because not enough blacks passed the exam.

The city lowered both written exams a combined 15 points that resulted in 258 more people passing the exam, according to a statement released Thursday by Civil Service officials. The agreement allows the city to immediately resume its plans to hire police and firefighters.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: dayton; ericholderspeople; ohio; police; reverseracism; tnb
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To: B4Ranch

Don’t laugh too hard, they are already putting this plan into action in several states, including WA state and I think Ohio. (I could be wrong on Ohio)

WA state even has special programs for grad schools for minorities that are nothing more than on the job training, no tests. I know a law school grad that never had a test or classroom lecture after the first year, all on the job training.


101 posted on 03/12/2011 8:50:00 AM PST by Eva
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To: B4Ranch
Testing for competence is racist.


102 posted on 03/12/2011 9:03:29 AM PST by Dr. Sheldon Cooper (I'm not insane, my mother had me tested!)
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To: Eva

>>WA state even has special programs for grad schools for minorities that are nothing more than on the job training, no tests. I know a law school grad that never had a test or classroom lecture after the first year, all on the job training.<<

My first reaction is to say I don’t believe you. What does this fool do when the judge tells him to submit something in writing? Find someone to write it? Can this boy speak a full sentence without any umms or ahhs?


103 posted on 03/12/2011 9:21:44 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch

At my job; I work in an office (not gubmint).


104 posted on 03/12/2011 9:40:55 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

I’m so glad that I’m retired!


105 posted on 03/12/2011 9:56:39 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: kearnyirish2
“Completely understandable, though better in court than dying because of the incompetence of others.”

Right! Whether it was himself getting killed or maimed due to the incompetence of another fireman or a civilian(s) getting the same, it's why he got out as soon as he could. Sad actually.

The scenario you laid out is an example of a perfect storm of illogical policy unfolding to a tragic end. Disgusting.

106 posted on 03/12/2011 10:03:14 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: B4Ranch

“I’m so glad that I’m retired!”

I wish I was; I have a ways to go. Retirees are the only ones left who can say what they want without losing their jobs.

If you’re retired, you wouldn’t even recognize the workplace today; it is like bizarro-world. I receive a lot of sales literature from banks and other financial institutions; nobody featured on them looks like me. There are black and Indian men and women, as well as oriental and white women; if there is a white guy, he’s all the way in the back, looking over the shoulders of three or four “more involved” people. In the meantime, that is not the realistic reflection at all of the people actually getting things done in the workplace. Very creepy, while mildly entertaining. I even had a black male co-worker ridiculing the literature as “politically correct” (with no prompting from me; I could offer nothing but embarrassed silence).


107 posted on 03/12/2011 10:05:10 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
THANK YOU! (caps = friendly sarcasm)

A writing sample can be a great tool in interpreting one’s rudimentary skills, absolutely. Hell, they should be required, but then if they were, we most likely wouldn't be having this conversation.

But, until the outcry becomes deafening, or the wrong person suffers or dies due to this situation, like you said, “Absolutely depressing; no hope.”

108 posted on 03/12/2011 10:08:25 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Years ago the NJ state troopers eliminated the boxing segment of their training because a female cadet was killed in the ring. The boxing was critical because many of the troopers patrol alone; they HAVE TO be able to defend themselves and their weapons. I guess it just fell through the cracks now...

Firemen in particular have to be able to carry a motionless person out of a building; how do you ignore that? Will it be like the NHL, where the smaller guys are matched up on lines with monsters who can protect them?


109 posted on 03/12/2011 10:09:13 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: B4Ranch
Bravo for you!!!

You know what would be great? If you could get a tax deduction/abatement for paying for your own protection. Obviously, from what you wrote, you don't need (or want) taxpayer supported law enforcement “protecting” you; you're doing it yourself, and I'm sure it's not free.

110 posted on 03/12/2011 10:14:22 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: kearnyirish2

If you cannot defend yourself via your own hands, feet, etc., you have ZERO business being a LEO, man or woman.

Firemen. Exactly. If you cannot pass the physical requirements for basic functions (like being able to carry a motionless person out of a building) what the hell are you doing in that job?

Your NHL analogy would be funny if this entire scenario wasn’t so tragic in nature.


111 posted on 03/12/2011 10:21:39 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Liberals really are the enemy of truth, even when truth is staring them in the face...


112 posted on 03/12/2011 10:45:11 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

Perfectly stated!


113 posted on 03/12/2011 11:47:21 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I don’t mind paying for taxpayer supported law enforcement. It gives the criminals something to worry about and they do provide ‘trash removal’, if necessary.


114 posted on 03/12/2011 1:25:10 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“Trash removal”

Good stuff!


115 posted on 03/12/2011 1:32:51 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: kearnyirish2; B4Ranch

Same ole sh*t...

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists//view.bg?articleid=1322940


116 posted on 03/12/2011 8:30:03 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: B4Ranch; onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; seekthetruth; ...

Way to go .. the safety of Dayton citizens now depends on the luck of the draw for their lives and safety .. no matter basic COMPETENCY for the job!

“The city lowered both written exams a combined 15 points that resulted in 258 more people passing the exam, according to a statement released Thursday by Civil Service officials. The agreement allows the city to immediately resume its plans to hire police and firefighters.”

The Administration of Intimidation and Redistribution .. nothing but.


117 posted on 03/12/2011 11:03:38 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: B4Ranch
Put it all in perspective and you still get the same thing. Incremental destruction of the country one little piece at a time.

Obamacare, huge deficits,the destruction of the currency,lowering standards at every level from education to police to whatever. I could go on but everyone here gets it.

It's all the regimes attack on America and liberal minions at lower levels chiming in whenever,whereever they have the power to do so.

118 posted on 03/13/2011 4:42:03 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: GOPJ
Miami has been a hell hole for at least 30 years that I can remember.

I was born there and left in 1970 when I saw it was falling apart and imploding at the same time.

Now its a mecca for steel companies who build bars for windows.

119 posted on 03/13/2011 4:46:23 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: kearnyirish2
The country is headed toward a scenario where you will have states that are worth living in,such as Texas and a few others and states that are not worth living in such as Calllfornyuh and New Yawk.

Sad to see but that's where we are headed. Unless we get some "CHANGE"!!

120 posted on 03/13/2011 4:49:33 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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