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1 posted on 03/08/2011 1:51:05 PM PST by kcvl
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I think a lot of the “recovery” is fake.

I’m trying to find stats on how much Social Security tax is being collected (by month).

I think this would be a good indicator of how many folks are working and at what wage.

A lot of the factors in the headline “unemployment” rate are manipulated.


2 posted on 03/08/2011 1:53:58 PM PST by nascarnation
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That is the goal you know. Once it’s up over 50% the socialists will have won.


3 posted on 03/08/2011 1:54:10 PM PST by refermech
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This explains all those shoppers at Walmart on the days their welfare checks come in.
5 posted on 03/08/2011 1:57:44 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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I want my cheese, too.


6 posted on 03/08/2011 1:58:52 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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Let's see if I have this right?

People pay into SS and Medicare nearly all their adult lives, the Congress steals the fund and it then becomes a "Handout"!

Oh, yeah, I get it now!

7 posted on 03/08/2011 1:59:55 PM PST by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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Government payouts—including Social Security, Medicare

I'm offended.

When I was selling I had my taxes confiscated and in 1997 the Feds took over $350,000 of my cash.

I've run the numbers and if I were permitted to take my own money back from the feds in a lump sum, they would have had to pay me $ 3,300,000 instead they keep my money and I get about $ 2 grand a month.

Not counting lost interest, I'd only have to live until I am 210 years old and then I'd break even.

So when I see this shit, equating me {and many just like me} to ghetto dwelling welfare gummint hoes, my dago blood boils.

If I could get this author in my grasp, I'd be either in jail, the hospital or the morgue.

9 posted on 03/08/2011 2:11:25 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, in honor of Standing Wolf.)
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35% of all income - what an shocking, amazing figure.

If you had asked me, I would have guessed 10+%.


14 posted on 03/08/2011 2:22:16 PM PST by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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Gotta love CNBC for telling it like it is—”HANDOUTS” make up a third of US wages. Not sanitized terms like “transfer payments.” “Handouts”, as in someone sitting on their lazy ass with their hand out looking for money from someone else.

Seriously though—this shows how much the Welfare State has rotted most Americans’ self-sufficiency and why we are having such a hard time taking necessary, common sense steps in Wisconsin. The average American is addicted to the heroin of government handouts.


16 posted on 03/08/2011 2:36:33 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("The time will come when Winter will ask you what you were doing all Summer" -- Henry Clay)
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And almost half the country does not pay ANY federal income taxes.


17 posted on 03/08/2011 2:39:31 PM PST by SonofReagan
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And I see people still hold on to the notion that they are simply getting back what they paid in and so this really isn’t a handout. Sorry but that ship sailed long ago. You were paying taxes for 20, 30, 40 years that went to pay some one else’s handout. Now you are asking the younger generation to pay you a hand out. No one paid into any special account and you aren’t getting back anything. Its simply your turn at the public teet.


18 posted on 03/08/2011 2:40:02 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("The time will come when Winter will ask you what you were doing all Summer" -- Henry Clay)
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No PITY FOR THE LAZY!!!
19 posted on 03/08/2011 2:43:40 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Age 49 and working (and having tax money stolen) since I was 16 and somehow I have never received a penny of government handout money. What a fool I must be.


23 posted on 03/08/2011 2:49:01 PM PST by Newtoidaho (Liberals are drooling buffoons (politicians and bureaucrats) backed by satanic goons (union thugs).)
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I believe we as a country - the country that it was intended to be - meant to be is lost.

I was talking to a lady at work about what I see at Walmart every time I go there (pay cash by the way). She just couldn't believe that most of the big-filled grocery carts were for EBTers.....

On the way home, I again ended up in line there by a young skinny female in pajama top and bottoms (at least they looked like it but were expensive because of the "pink" this or that logos) in her slippers with her momma in tow taking care of the older meal-ticket, and what appeared to be the young baby daddy. He obviously couldn't afford a belt; his pants were drooping - he had on fleece lined slippers. He also looked like he'd just jumped up from the Xbox while on the couch and rode with honey and momma and the two kids to Wally's.. TWO CARTS FULL, momma got her slim fast (12 cans), plenty of junk food, etc. BD (baby-daddy) had darlin go one aisle over to get the right color lighter....

Neither one had a ring - why you can't get the benefits if you are married, of course! Neither one obviously works (or worked - they were too damn young for that)....it was just heart breaking because they are socializing this concept to their children (one baby new, and one a year or so old) and making it acceptable to them. The government has done its level-best to make sure there is no stigma attached to selfish laziness like this.

This isn't a race thing; they were white as most of them are up here in the North Georgia mountains. It is a prevalent national sickness and it has destroyed us and we will not recover from this. It is just a matter of time. The time when people like me say bullshit and stop working and paying taxes and join their lazy asses in line for whatever we can get that somebody else has to pay for.

24 posted on 03/08/2011 2:55:11 PM PST by Gaffer
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Wow.


32 posted on 03/08/2011 3:10:59 PM PST by sbMKE
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Social Security is a retirement benefit, NOT a handout.


33 posted on 03/08/2011 3:11:04 PM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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This whole idea that people “paid in” for their Social Security—that way too many people on FR buy into—really gets my goat. Any one of us could say that about any taxes we paid. Many of us—especially industrious, productive people who presumably post here—pay a fortune in taxes. I don’t like it but it is what it is. I never expect to “get back” what I pay in taxes. I view it as money down the rat hole. I make no distinction between general taxes and “Social Security” taxes. I am conservative enough to realize that a special “Social Security” tax is simply a government lie to get you to pay more taxes. There is absolutely no difference between your Social Security tax and your other income taxes. They aren’t put into a special account or in a vault. They are spent on general government spending. The Social Security taxes that you paid in the 70s went to pay for Gerald Ford’s and Jimmy Carter’s budgets. The Social Security taxes you paid in the 80s and 90s went to pay for Ronald Reagan’s, George Bush’s and Bill Clinton’s budgets. Include Social Security payments to people who are now dead. Now its your turn (or at some point will be your turn) at the public teet. The one difference is that now the Ponzi Scheme is crumbling and you hate that idea. Just like a Maddoff investor, you are realizing that you paid into a scam and want your money back. But just like a Maddoff investor, you aren’t going to get it no matter how much you scream and rage about it. I know this—I know I will be screwed but someone has to take the hit and stop the massive scam that is the Welfare State and Social Security. That is what being responsible is—not keeping the scam going so it crushes our kids. Its us taking the hit.


34 posted on 03/08/2011 3:12:07 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("The time will come when Winter will ask you what you were doing all Summer" -- Henry Clay)
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One of the major contributors to this welfare state has been . . . . . . well, welfare. How many unwed women are paid increasing amounts of welfare money for every child they download? We, the taxpayers, pay for EVERYTHING for these women and their kids.

It’s past time to draw a line in the sand. Unwed mom with one kid, no problem. If she wants more kids, she doesn’t get the taxpayers to pay for them, they come out of HER pocket. We could go a long way toward ending the entitlement mentality by stopping the increased welfare payments everytime an unwed, unemployed woman downloads another kid to increase their welfare check. Let’s end this now!


35 posted on 03/08/2011 3:12:07 PM PST by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To say that people whom receive social security medicare and medicaid are receiving an entitlement. Stop and think a moment.

Public Sector Employees whom are dependent upon the taxpayers to pay for these are the same people whom pay nothing or very little towards their own pensions. Here is the entitlement mentality too. Yet they expect the taxpayer whom has had to lose or suffer a reduction of many of the same benefits that they feel is their right.

Lets say a taxpayer whose income is at 40,000.00, whom had to take a cut in salary, reduction in benefits, payment towards health insurance increased, his pension or 401K reduced or eliminated and the neighbor next door whose income is 85,000.00 as a teacher and pays nothing towards pension nor healthcare and is now angry that they will have to pay very little towards healthcare insurance and a pension.

So the entitlement mentality is just as sinificant by the public sector employee.

Okay look at a politician in DC, salary of in excess of 170,000.00. lifetime healthcare and a lifetime pension for 10 or more years of service. They scream and holler on term limits because if they do not get the 10 years in they do not get the benefits they feel they are entitled too. Keep in mind a politician gets money and other perks from lobbyists. So actually the salary is a base salary and they live in style.

Oddly enough cutting the salary and freezing the lobbyists money will not end the corruption because the politicians are just plain greedy bastards whom should have no income paid at all. The bastards need to have the constituents in their districts set their salaries at the level of the constituents median salaries. (Man would the politicians scream if the median salaries in their districts is only 50,000.00)


44 posted on 03/08/2011 3:22:21 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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Those who refer to Social Security benefits as a ‘handout’ have no political future.


57 posted on 03/08/2011 3:31:25 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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Uh, did they forget Medicaid which is the pig trough of the illegals?


59 posted on 03/08/2011 3:33:56 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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