Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Boise County files for bankruptcy
Idaho Statesman ^ | 03/02/11 | KATY MOELLER

Posted on 03/02/2011 10:16:04 AM PST by Pollster1

In a move rare in the United States and perhaps unprecedented in Idaho, Boise County is filing for federal protection against a multimillion dollar judgment. . . .

James Spiotto, an expert on Chapter 9 bankruptcies, told The Bond Buyer in a Tuesday article that there have been about eight municipal bankruptcies per year in the U.S. for the past four decades. Among the most famous cases: Orange County, Calif., in 1994 and Vallejo, Calif., in 2008. . . .

BANKRUPTCY COMES ON HEELS OF JUDGMENT

A federal jury in December found that Boise County violated the federal Fair Housing Act in its handling of a developer’s proposal to build a 72-bed residential treatment facility for teens.

The jury awarded the development firm Oaas Laney $4 million, plus attorneys’ fees, which the county says total about $1.4 million. Boise County has an operating budget of about $9.4 million. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at idahostatesman.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-36 last
To: Cboldt
Even if it's not abuse, bankruptcy is a perfectly valid reaction.

Morally? No. It is not acceptable to dodge a valid debt that way, although the courts might approve. If you have harmed someone, you have an obligation to make restitution.

21 posted on 03/02/2011 11:29:27 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: stormer
No surprise that a federal court would uphold the federal Fair Housing Act against local opposition to a building project.

Boise County had a duty under the Federal Housing Act to allow the center to be built because it would make housing available for the handicapped teens [= teens with emotional or substance abuse problems] that [the developer] wanted to serve.
Idaho developer wins $4M judgment over teen center - Dec 21, 2010
22 posted on 03/02/2011 11:37:59 AM PST by Cboldt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Pollster1
-- No. It is not acceptable to dodge a valid debt that way ... --

It's not a dodge, it's handing your assets over to a court, and letting the court figure out how to pay your creditors. The creditors aren't getting zero unless the bankruptcy court accepts the case, then says so.

An entity only has so much money. When the money runs out, bankruptcy ensues.

23 posted on 03/02/2011 11:42:02 AM PST by Cboldt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: stormer
Courts are not interested in morality, only in the administration of justice based on the facts presented to them.

There is no law.

24 posted on 03/02/2011 11:56:44 AM PST by Richard Kimball
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: de.rm

One of hundreds of governments worth less than a gallon of gasoline.


25 posted on 03/02/2011 12:01:41 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: stormer

It is, in my experience as an attorney, absolutely amazing how local governments treat developers and development applications. The term “land use law” is a misnomer. Governments routinely apply the law in a completely arbitrary and capricious manner.

To get any kind of significant development approved is far more a question of “who you know,” and “who those opposed to your development know,” than whether you have in fact complied with the rules.

So, it is completely plausible to me to hear it suggested that the County may have absolutely screwed this developer, and cost it millions of dollars. It happens all the time.

I believe that a Chapter 9 bankruptcy will not allow the County to avoid paying this debt. It will authorize the County to pay it over time, pursuant to a plan approved by the bankruptcy court.


26 posted on 03/02/2011 12:31:04 PM PST by TheConservator ("I spent my life trying not to be careless. Women and children can be careless, but not men.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Richard Kimball

Uh, OK...


27 posted on 03/02/2011 12:31:46 PM PST by stormer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: stormer

Perhaps.


28 posted on 03/02/2011 1:06:05 PM PST by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Cboldt
It's not a dodge, it's handing your assets over to a court, and letting the court figure out how to pay your creditors. The creditors aren't getting zero unless the bankruptcy court accepts the case, then says so. An entity only has so much money. When the money runs out, bankruptcy ensues.

We disagree. If a court compels you to act immorally, that absolves you of any moral responsibility for your actions (maybe). If a court permits you to act immorally, that does not absolve you of the responsibility to act morally. If you cannot pay today, when the court writes off all or part of a valid debt, but you can pay tomorrow or next year, then I would say that there is still a moral obligation to pay off a morally valid debt when you are able to.

29 posted on 03/02/2011 1:58:27 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: oneolcop

Occam’s Razor...


30 posted on 03/02/2011 6:17:19 PM PST by stormer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Seruzawa

As if California is the only state with gangs...

Get real.


31 posted on 03/02/2011 6:21:28 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Pollster1

As someone else said...

The first domino.....


32 posted on 03/02/2011 6:22:28 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TheConservator

I appreciate your perspective. I really get tired of people who mindlessly and gladly bash attorneys, just for the sake of getting “on the record”. Everybody thinks they understand the process, but most folks simply don’t have the mental hardware to grasp the complexities involved in cases like these. There is more than meets the eye...


33 posted on 03/02/2011 6:24:13 PM PST by stormer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: stormer

Well, I’d agree but federal judges usually get their way regardless of morality (what’s right). A judge can do this by simply preventing the jury from hearing what he/she does not want them to hear. Judges are, after all, former lawyers. Many, if not most lawyers see it as their job to get what they want regardless of the truth. What is legal is not always what it moral. eg. the OJ Simpson murder trial.


34 posted on 03/02/2011 9:42:01 PM PST by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2

Ha! I never said that. However these programs have been largely populated with gang members exported from California. Idaho and Utah, etc never needed these facilities for their own homegrown criminals. It’s just like moving the power plants to Utah and Wyoming so that Calif can pretend they’ve improved their air quality. Send your problems to someone else.

WTF do you know about it anyhow? Nothing.


35 posted on 03/03/2011 7:06:12 AM PST by Seruzawa (What's Democrat's legacy? Almost 1/2 million dead US soldiers and collapsed cities.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Seruzawa
You didn't say it, but ya clearly implied it.

After speaking with you however, I can hope we continue to export liberals and criminal low life to your back yard...lol

BTW, the air quality in CA has *substantially* improved, so no need to pretend, as you again suggested.

36 posted on 03/03/2011 9:06:01 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-36 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson