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Cornstalked: As the 14 Wisconsin Democrats run, meet the Illinois Tea Party activists giving chase
The Daily Caller ^ | 3-1-11 | Jeff Winkler

Posted on 03/01/2011 8:19:14 AM PST by bigbob

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To: Terry Mross

Yes, the WI AG is a Republican. Good luck trying to get the hyper-corrupt rodent gov’t in IL to force their fellow rodents back to work across state lines.


21 posted on 03/01/2011 8:59:49 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: reagan_fanatic

I’m the chairman of the Illinois Center Right Coalition, a conservative, statewide group that was founded in 2003. The steering committee has included about 40 people, including John Cox, Pat O’Malley, Mike Psak, Norm Hill, John McNeal, Scott Bludorn, Gary Dunlap, Ray True, Jeff Sykuta, Craig Simmons, and Liz Eilers. Our site is www.illinoiscenterright.com.

The ICRC will hold a meeting on March 5, noon-2:00, at the Old Country Buffet, at 551 E. Roosevelt Rd., Lombard. We’ll discuss the results of the Feb. elections and whom we should endorse, in the April elections. Will you attend? I reserved a room for free because each attendee is expected to buy lunch, which costs $9.99 + tip.


22 posted on 03/01/2011 9:06:51 AM PST by PhilCollins
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To: Terry Mross

If you listen to the fake Koch call with Walker, he discusses ethics and felony investigations into the conduct of the Wisconsin 14 - they are taking financial considerations in exchange for political action. It is bribery, plain and simple.


23 posted on 03/01/2011 9:15:05 AM PST by sbMKE
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To: bigbob

Is there anything at all that stops these 14 Wisconsin fleebaggers from just staying away the entire term?

As best I can tell, so long as public opinion in their districts support their actions, these 14 senators who effectively subverting a Democratic election could simply remain in Illinois till the next election.

These 14 are liberals from liberal districts who survived the GOP sweep. Public opinion is mixed at best, and may even be on the unions/democrats side at the moment - so what compels them to come back?

Additionally, since the mainstream media seems to have declared this subversion of democracy a legitimate tactic, might it become necessary for us to do the same thing in states where we are a minority? If this is now how the game is played, we may need to begin considering similar actions. For example, had the GOP left Wisconsin last session, could be have effectively blocked all the Democrat tax increases? Not saying I support these tactics at all, but if the rules of the game have changed, I don’t see how we can avoid playing without using all the same tools the Democrats will use.

Taking this to its logic conclusion, could a minority party simply get elected in a state they can’t win a majority in, and simply fly out of state for the entire term to avoid allowing quorum’s? So long as they are in partisan districts that are happy with the obstruction, what stops this from happening? Hell, the Indiana fleebaggers can’t even explain what they are hiding from, and they are in a red state - yet they are still getting away with it because they have support in their own districts. This could degenerate into the new norm if it is allowed to succeed anywhere.


24 posted on 03/01/2011 9:19:00 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Tennessee Nana

Nana-the Wisconsin statutes allows for the Governor to declare vacant the position of any state Representative or state Senator who fails to present themselves for business in their appropriate chambers for 30 or more days.

In that case, a special election can be declared and an interim placeholder appointed until the special election.

Tick-tock, tick-tock, the clock is ticking on these idiots. My guess is the Gov is keeping this ace up his sleeve until the deadline draws nearer.


25 posted on 03/01/2011 9:29:19 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Leave the gun. Take the canolis.)
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To: Longbow1969

Perhaps, if they stay away long enough, they may not meet the residency qualifications necessary to run in the next election.


26 posted on 03/01/2011 9:29:36 AM PST by Coffee... Black... No Sugar (I'm gonna' BICKER!)
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To: Coffee... Black... No Sugar

And they may be required to pay IL state income tax.


27 posted on 03/01/2011 9:33:31 AM PST by mewzilla (Hey, Schumer, your Lockerbie report left quite a bit out.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yes! They’re liars.


28 posted on 03/01/2011 9:35:40 AM PST by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
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To: PhilCollins

I work Saturdays so I cannot attend. Thanks for the offer though!


29 posted on 03/01/2011 9:35:45 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: OB1kNOb
Run away !


30 posted on 03/01/2011 9:43:19 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Just A Nobody; All
WHEN IT HAPPENED IN TEXAS, the Governor announced they would not be paid during this time, they would not be reimbursed for the expenses, and they could not use their office credit cards ... They gave it up and came home quickly.

Good idea ... Worth doing it again in Wisconsin.

31 posted on 03/01/2011 9:47:16 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Go, Tea Party!!
Stop the overthrow of the elected government of Wisconsin.
TWB
32 posted on 03/01/2011 9:58:48 AM PST by TWhiteBear (Jobs, Peace, Food, Security .... Down with Obama(Peacefully))
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To: Longbow1969

Very good points. I have been pondering them as well. So far nobody has any answers. One other thing the WI GOP is up against, the WI Supreme Court is left-wing and will rule in ways to benefit the socialists.


33 posted on 03/01/2011 9:59:24 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Tennessee Nana; Diana in Wisconsin
Article IV, §7

Organization of legislature; quorum; compulsory attendance. Section 7. Each house shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members; and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business, but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may compel the attendance of absent members in such manner and under such penalties as each house may provide.

I looked this up in the WI Constitution. It appears that the Senate could actually compel the presence of the absent members and penalize their absence if they come back across the state line. I'm surprised that I haven't heard this before.

34 posted on 03/01/2011 9:59:39 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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To: KansasGirl
Very good points. I have been pondering them as well. So far nobody has any answers. One other thing the WI GOP is up against, the WI Supreme Court is left-wing and will rule in ways to benefit the socialists.

I really don't think, at least from my small bit of research, that there is anything that really compels them to come back. They really could just stay out the entire term - at least so long as public opinion in their own districts allows. And since Republicans did so well in many states this past cycle, it strikes me that if this succeeds then Democrats will be replicating it everywhere.

Oddly enough, because of the risk this tactic will be used again and again if we cave to it, the Wisconsin Republicans actually have less room to negotiate than if the Democrats had stayed - which may be a good thing from our perspective.

35 posted on 03/01/2011 10:14:20 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: mewzilla

OUCH !!!


36 posted on 03/01/2011 10:43:47 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: bigbob
OTOH

Many Wisconsiners are learning they don't need the government to survive &

Every day the Democrats are gone is one less day the Wisconsin state government can mess up people's lives.

Those are not necessarily bad things.

Might even make the shutdown of the federal government more palatable.

37 posted on 03/01/2011 10:57:16 AM PST by walsh
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To: bigbob; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; BillyBoy

I really want to chase these bastards but unlike them I actually have to go to work and run a business while these fools are fleeing from motel to motel. I hope the bums get bed bugs.


38 posted on 03/01/2011 11:07:56 AM PST by Dengar01 (Go Blackhawks!!! Go Bulls!!!)
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To: Hardastarboard
"I looked this up in the WI Constitution. It appears that the Senate could actually compel the presence of the absent members and penalize their absence if they come back across the state line. I'm surprised that I haven't heard this before."

That's why they left the state.

39 posted on 03/01/2011 12:01:56 PM PST by mlo
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To: Tennessee Nana
If a soldier pulled this he would be in jail...

Exactly right. And if anybody with a real job pulled this, they'd be summarily fired.

Just fired a guy today with a combination problem of not showing up for work and not calling in.

40 posted on 03/01/2011 2:47:24 PM PST by jimt
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