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New Life Church hero says she was asked to leave because she's gay
FOX 31 KDVR - DENVER ^ | 2011.02.28 at 06:53 AM MST | by Web Staff

Posted on 02/28/2011 9:26:48 AM PST by ironwill

COLORADO SPRINGS - The security guard who saved lives by shooting a gunman at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs has apparently been asked to leave.

In December 2007, Jeanne Assam - working as a volunteer security guard - shot Matthew Murray after he killed two people outside the church. He killed two others the night before at a training center for Christian missionaries in Arvada.

Assam was honored for her quick action. Murray likely would’ve killed more people at the church if she had not shot him repeatedly then pinned him down.

Assam says last year when she told church leaders she is gay, she was asked to leave the church.

New Life pastor Brady Boyd told the Colorado Springs Gazette the report is untrue. "We would never tell someone to leave because of their sexual orientation," Boyd says. "Jeanne will always be a hero at New Life."

Assam gave a speech on Saturday, February 19 at the Pride Center’s annual masquerade ball, a fundraiser for the gay community in Colorado Springs.

The Gazette reports she spoke of the pressures society places on gay people.

New Life Church was in the national spotlight in 2006 when Pastor Ted Haggard left after admitting he had had a relationship with a male escort in Denver.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; assam; christians; gunman; hero; homosexualagenda; leo; religion; sin
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To: svcw

What part of “Thou shalt not bear false witness” are you rolling your eyes at?


61 posted on 02/28/2011 10:48:55 AM PST by r9etb
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To: ironwill

Gay people are always free to come to church.

However, the meme nowadays is that people have to APPROVE of what you do, or it is considered that they hate you personally. That is a tyranny, adopted by secular-progressives to try and control your thoughts.

If you tell them you do not approve, they start screaming that you hate them and their fury is irrational.


62 posted on 02/28/2011 10:49:39 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
[ We don’t live under Judaic law and rules. Tithing was to support a priesthood that owned no land. That is not true of Christians. ]

I cant fault that.. The Jewish model of church organization is flawed.. Since it failed miserably several times.. Not to speak that is was not according to God plans.. but in spite of them..

63 posted on 02/28/2011 10:51:41 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: robowombat

I googled Jeanne Assam Minneapolis:

http://www.startribune.com/12356581.html


64 posted on 02/28/2011 10:51:55 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: fatez
Interesting reply, you asked a question, I gave you a factual answer, now you accuse me of throwing stones at her. You do have an axe to grind.

You gave an answer that had nothing to do with the present situation. You are throwing stones at her.

Jeanne is welcome to sit in the chairs with all the rest of us liars, adulterers, drug addicts, tax cheats, thieves and hypocrites.

Interesting phrasing: "sit in the chairs." She hadn't been sitting in the chairs before ... Does that mean she really was asked to stop doing something else?

65 posted on 02/28/2011 10:53:31 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb; svcw

The article says that the paster says she is lying, so either he is or she is. Right?


66 posted on 02/28/2011 10:56:05 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: r9etb
Some of us consider abuse of apostrophes to be a sin

This is true ;-)

67 posted on 02/28/2011 10:56:35 AM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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To: fatez
Unfortunately people don't see the difference between a sinner that repents and one that celebrates their sin. Apparently Ms Assam celebrates hers.

Heroic guard says New Life church rejected her for being gay

Jeanne Assam said that she had accepted her sexual identity after a long struggle but that church officials had pushed her away.

68 posted on 02/28/2011 11:00:41 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: circlecity
I answered your question but I don't believe in tithing as orthodox christian circles believe it to be..

Tithing can be in time, effort, or some other sacrifice..
It is about sacrifice for and to others.. (Golden Rule)..
even forgiveness and/or gratitude is a form of sacrifice..

The sacrifice should be willingly and not under duress..
even an honor and privilege to make it.. a double blessing..
1st to the recipient and 2nd to the giver.. God needs nothing from you..

69 posted on 02/28/2011 11:01:57 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: ironwill
If it's true that she was asked to leave because of her sexual orientation, then this wrong

If she was asked to leave because of her sexual lifestyle, then this is right.

70 posted on 02/28/2011 11:02:04 AM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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To: ironwill

No shame at all. Neither would a church allow a practicing thief, nor child molestor. Homosexuality, the practice thereof, persons that practice it should not be allowed within the body of a church.

Ours would welcome a homosexual, and the evils of that homosexuality would be preached hard. Either repentance would occur, or the person would leave.

If she is unrepentant, then she goes. Sin should not be tolerated or allowed in a church.


71 posted on 02/28/2011 11:07:57 AM PST by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: T Minus Four
If she was asked to leave because of her sexual lifestyle, then this is right.

Agreed. See post 27 please.

72 posted on 02/28/2011 11:08:10 AM PST by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: hosepipe

I see. So, since we are all, indeed, ‘sinners’, then anything goes, right?


73 posted on 02/28/2011 11:10:25 AM PST by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: FreeAtlanta
The article says that the paster says she is lying, so either he is or she is. Right?

Not necessarily either/or.

Note, first off, that this report is from a local opinion writer -- I suppose one would call him an "advocacy columnist." So we first have to account for Mr. Noreen's fingers in the story, and the fact that he has his own slant on it.

Beyond that, there's a big gap between the two stories, and here's what I think it probably is.

I think Assam is being truthful when she says she told the church leadership about being a lesbian. And I think they responded by telling her that, although she was welcome to continue worshiping with them, her sexual orientation disqualified her from being a security guard -- and Assam took that obvious demotion as a signal that she was no longer welcome. And I think she stretched the truth a bit, though I do think the situation made it impossible for her to stay there.

As for Boyd, I think he is likely telling the truth when he says she's welcome to "sit in the chairs," but I also think he left out a few of the other details.

There's more to the story, I think -- both sides are spinning it to some extent.

74 posted on 02/28/2011 11:13:00 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Ok, here is the deal. She has been fired for lying. She has demonstrated a history of lies. I know the church. They would not have asked her to leave because of sexual orientation.
Seriously, you really need to get over yourself.
If you want to get your panties all in a bunch over me saying she was a liar, go ahead. I do not care. The eye roll was for you.
75 posted on 02/28/2011 11:13:22 AM PST by svcw (God in His own time not ours)
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To: r9etb
My opinion on the matter, is that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

That's so broad-minded of you.

You must feel very self-satisfied.

76 posted on 02/28/2011 11:14:12 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: trisham; fatez; ironwill
Well there's some info that was left out"

Guard who shot Colorado gunman had been fired from Mpls. force

"She is a fairly new believer in Christ," Boyd said of Assam and her background in Minneapolis. "If you go back in any of our pasts, you can dig up something on any of us. She admittedly made lots of bad decisions, but only in the past few months did she become a devoted follower of Christ. Her life has changed. She was let go, but that happens every day to good people."

Compare that with her telling them recently that she has decided to accept her homosexual tendencies.

77 posted on 02/28/2011 11:14:12 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: r9etb
You gave an answer that had nothing to do with the present situation. You are throwing stones at her.

No I am not, you asked a question, I answered it. Your subtle attempts of accusing me of casting stones are not so subtle. I shot your argument down and now you are smearing me as a sin sniffer. I never brought it up (her lying), you asked for an example, I gave it, which you now dismiss as old or not relevant which is a dodge. Nice try r9etb, keep digging, maybe you'll hit something. But I am done debating you. You make accusations which you cannot back up and then cast aspersions on your debating opponent. Maybe r9etb, just maybe, you shouldn't be so judgmental...

78 posted on 02/28/2011 11:15:44 AM PST by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: circlecity

Tithing was aprt of the Law. Jesus said that He did not come to abolish that Law, that it wouldn’t change one tittle.

While we will NOT be judged under the Law, the Law is still there. The OT is not just something to read and yet ignore. Tithing is in the Bible for a reason. Tithing was for the Levites doing Gods work. Your Pastor, your church (hopefully) does Gods work. Tithe to it. Tithe to God.


79 posted on 02/28/2011 11:17:27 AM PST by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: ironwill
If it's true that she was asked to leave because of her sexual orientation, then this wrong.

The terminology is misleading, and terms must be defined before we can go further.

If she told the church that she is "gay" in the sense that she is struggling with same sex attraction, then any church worthy of the name of Christ is a debtor obligated to help her in her struggle. But we all know that that is not the meaning of "gay."

We learn her real meaning by the fact that she was later a speaker at the city's "Pride Center." So, she is an unrepentant militant, intent on calling her sin NOT sin, and flaunting it before the altar.

Yes, expelling her was the biblical thing to do.

80 posted on 02/28/2011 11:20:07 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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