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Scientists warn of link between dangerous new pathogen and Monsanto’s Roundup (Vilsack)
ActivistPost.com ^ | February 21, 2011 | Rady Ananda

Posted on 02/25/2011 5:31:05 PM PST by bronxville

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To: La Lydia
In that case this is a poorly written article about a very interesting subject. That differentiation — or lack thereof — should have been made at the very beginning.

The confusion appears intentional. Note the name of the site.

21 posted on 02/25/2011 6:02:33 PM PST by PAR35
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To: bronxville; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Ping to the Weekly Gardening List


22 posted on 02/25/2011 6:04:34 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: bronxville
>Why are the animals having spontaneous abortions?

Evil hearts? Distress over the dying polar bears?

I'm just having fun, I dont listen to reports on GM food very often, they are much like scientific evidence of what fruit or vegetable to eat to avoid this or that kind of cancer...The research is infantile but will improve with age. the world is backwards we need to stop burning our grain and cereal crops.
23 posted on 02/25/2011 6:06:30 PM PST by RBIEL2
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To: musicman

BFLR


24 posted on 02/25/2011 6:09:04 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Red_Devil 232

“This previously unknown organism is only visible under an electron microscope (36,000X), with an approximate size range equal to a medium size virus. It is able to reproduce and appears to be a micro-fungal-like organism. If so, it would be the first such micro-fungus ever identified. There is strong evidence that this infectious agent promotes diseases of both plants and mammals, which is very rare.”

This is a plant/animal/human pathogen that’s never occurred. Damn scary.


25 posted on 02/25/2011 6:12:08 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: La Lydia
In that case this is a poorly written article about a very interesting subject.

Yes, the GM (genetically modified) refers to, among other things, this Roundup immunity.

Most people don't know that most of the foods they eat, especially corn products, have been sprayed liberally with Roundup.

26 posted on 02/25/2011 6:13:05 PM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: RBIEL2

And I don’t want to curb your fun. :) I’ve just seen some stats on w/men becoming more infertile and wonder...again looking at it from a population control perspective though there are other reasons. I’m probably being too paranoid but nonetheless it’s good to keep a close eye and get it on record.

NB: The site is an activist site but sometimes they’re on track. COL (Ret.) Don M. Huber, Emeritus Professor, Purdue University, APS Coordinator, USDA National Plant Disease Recovery System (NPDRS). The Retired Col was so concerned he wrote a letter to Vilsack.


27 posted on 02/25/2011 6:16:21 PM PST by bronxville
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To: Free Vulcan
The RR crops are the carrier of this “new, self-replicating, micro-fungal virus-sized organism” If they weren't RR they(the plants) would die in the field and the animals wouldn't be consuming the Roundup in their feed.

I've heard plenty of conservatives mock the greenies who've been warning about the dangers of “Frankenfoods”, but food that is meant to withstand pesticide can have very serious consequences for those who consume it. I would assume it could be particularly dangerous for pregnant women. Just try to avoid foods made with GM soy, corn or beet sugar...it's next to impossible.

28 posted on 02/25/2011 6:17:07 PM PST by Spudx7
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To: Free Vulcan

“This is a plant/animal/human pathogen that’s never occurred. Damn scary.”

Exactly. I didn’t want to show the photo from the site of the near-term spontaneous abortion but the numbers have increased.


29 posted on 02/25/2011 6:19:06 PM PST by bronxville
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To: bronxville

Very suspicious.

I’m always interested in “new” pathogens and microbes, so read the whole article for more information.

No links to more information on this organism.

If it exists, it would be incredibly major biology news. Probably a new Kingdom of life, as nothing self-reproducing of virus size exists, bacterial or fungal or anything else.

But the author just tosses out some scary information and then moves on. In all likelihood because there isn’t anything there.

Also I know of no pathogen that attacks multiple plant and animal species. Pathogens just don’t work that way. Toxins might, in some cases, but not pathogens. They are by definition tailored to specific organisms or related organisms.

In all likelihood no additional information was provided for the simple reason that the information doesn’t exist.

If anybody has links showing otherwise, I’m interested.


30 posted on 02/25/2011 6:21:24 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Spudx7

I wonder how the greenie-weenies feel about Pres_ent Hopey Changey now? Same old crony-capitalism with the chemical giants.


31 posted on 02/25/2011 6:22:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: bronxville

0bama has ties to Big Ag? The horror! The horror! LOL!

*Broom Sweeps Scandal Under The Rug*


32 posted on 02/25/2011 6:26:32 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: TigersEye

Not crony-capitalism..

It is Corporatism as practised by all good fascist.


33 posted on 02/25/2011 6:26:42 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Red_Devil 232; neverdem

Thanks RD.

Ping Neverdem.


34 posted on 02/25/2011 6:27:37 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: MamaDearest

A the North American climate cools into the next ice age the fungus that attack the white nosed bats find it easier to survive.


36 posted on 02/25/2011 6:29:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: bronxville
The very real danger is that the pollen from these crops migrates and contaminates non-GM and they destroy the land - not to mention that if you have say, 100 acres on NON-GMO crops and their pollen blows over onto your corn - THAT corn and IT”S SEED now legally belong to Monsanto!

Whoever hasn't seen “Food, Inc.” - that's a good place to start in learning the very evil plan to control the worlds food supply. (In addition, I could tell you how much and how far - this gov’t has gone in setting up a plan to nationalize the trucking industry.
The motto of despots forever: “Who controls the food, controls the people.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEmIEEQOHpY

this is part 1 - watch the others for the full show

37 posted on 02/25/2011 6:29:37 PM PST by maine-iac7 ('WE STAND TOGETHER OR WE FALL APART' mt)
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To: Spudx7

oops...herbicide, not pesticide.


38 posted on 02/25/2011 6:30:04 PM PST by Spudx7
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To: bronxville; All

I posted a link at #37. For the record Monsanto is Evil, plain and simple. Stock up on what foods you can folks, the means to protect them, and the means to produce more, and do it quickly. I suggest praying to God for deliverance, because there are forces and principalities at work to destroy not only our way of life, but us as well. Take care and may God bless you all, I pray, in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.


39 posted on 02/25/2011 6:32:03 PM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Sherman Logan

“We are informing the USDA of our findings at this early stage, specifically due to your pending decision regarding approval of RR alfalfa. Naturally, if either the RR gene or Roundup itself is a promoter or co-factor of this pathogen, then such approval could be a calamity. Based on the current evidence, the only reasonable action at this time would be to delay deregulation at least until sufficient data has exonerated the RR system, if it does.

For the past 40 years, I have been a scientist in the professional and military agencies that evaluate and prepare for natural and manmade biological threats, including germ warfare and disease outbreaks. Based on this experience, I believe the threat we are facing from this pathogen is unique and of a high risk status. In layman’s terms, it should be treated as an emergency.”

The letter from the Col. to Vilsack states they’re in the early stages of investigation and he does states it’s an emergency. I’m a lay-person where this is concerned and not trying to convince anyone. But if there’s any doubt whatsoever then the deregulation that Obama wants should be put on hold for (coining their excuses) “public safety” or “It’s for the children”...


40 posted on 02/25/2011 6:34:06 PM PST by bronxville
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