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Firm says Craigslist is "cesspool of crime"
The Hill ^ | 02/24/11 03:55 PM ET | Gautham Nagesh

Posted on 02/24/2011 3:32:41 PM PST by Smogger

Craigslist has become a "cesspool of crime" and has been linked to 20 murders in the past three and a half years, according to a research firm commissioned by a competitor.

A report released Thursday by AIM Group claims 330 crimes have been linked by law enforcement to the site, which allows users to post free online classified ads. Among those are the victims of the so-called "Craigslist serial killer" that has recently been targeting prostitutes on Long Island, N.Y.

"Sadly, Craigslist has become a cesspool of crime," said AIM Group founder Peter Zollman.

Craigslist CEO Jim Buckmaster responded on the company's blog calling the report "pay-to-play research."

"Classified listings scraper/aggregator and CL wannabe Oodle has paid AIM Group to falsely portray craigslist as fraught with criminal activity," Buckmaster said.

He didn't dispute the number of crimes, but said the report had failed to acknowledge there are more than 570 million classified ads posted on Craigslist during the same 12-month period, generating billions of interactions and numerous meetings with a relatively low incident rate.

"Crime is exceedingly rare on craigslist in part because criminals know that the electronic trail they leave there helps ensure their capture, and CL is unusually helpful and cooperative with law enforcement," Buckmaster said.

"The risk is not zero of course, and common sense precautions are in order when using craigslist, just as you would do at other venues or offline (where risks are arguably higher)."

Zollman acknowledged that Craigslist can't be blamed for things that happen among its users as facilitator of commerce, but said the site must still take action. Zollman's firm was retained by Craigslist competitor Oodle, which powers Facebook Marketplace.

"It’s not enough for the company to say it has eliminated “escort” and “adult” services ads – euphemisms for prostitution ads," Zollman said, acknowledging moves the site took last year after pressure from lawmakers.

"The unfortunate fact is that Craigslist has become almost synonymous with crime."

Zollman recommended users follow standard recommendations such as meeting other users in public and letting someone know where they are planning to go. But he suggested people go a step further and only deal with people known to them locally.

Buckmaster also suggested Craigslist is likely safer than Oodle in terms of its crime rate.


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KEYWORDS: craigslist; oodle
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Hmm.. I am using that "cesspool" to sling a pair of tickets to tomorrows Lakers game like I have done literally 100's of times and never been raped or murdered. Some guy did pass me a bad PayPal check before, but it was my fault for shipping the tickets before PayPal had verified him. What a crock.
1 posted on 02/24/2011 3:32:44 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Smogger
Feels like this is a little overboard. I'm glad they wrote the little bit about number of transactions where no crime committed. That was cool but still...
2 posted on 02/24/2011 3:36:51 PM PST by grapeape (Blitzshield.com - making football safer)
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To: Smogger

They got confused with the DNC.


3 posted on 02/24/2011 3:37:23 PM PST by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: Smogger

Craigslist has the dough — why not counter-investigate Oodle?

If people let their guard down with Craigslist more than they would with a physical classified ad, that’s their fault. There have been some horror incidents where, say, someone was asked to deliver a for-sale vehicle to some secluded area of town, whereupon the person was robbed and perhaps raped or killed.


4 posted on 02/24/2011 3:37:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Smogger

I have sold and bought through CL for years. No problems, just exercise common sense.

(That is the real problem: lack of common sense)


5 posted on 02/24/2011 3:37:56 PM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Smogger
He didn't dispute the number of crimes, but said the report had failed to acknowledge there are more than 570 million classified ads posted on Craigslist

If the NYT had 570 million classified ads I'd suspect they'd be involved in at least 20 murders.

Anyway, isn't the left always saying media does not affect behavior? Why would they go after Craigslist now?

6 posted on 02/24/2011 3:38:40 PM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: Smogger

Our public roads and apartment complexes are cesspools of crime. Big deal. There is a LOT of honest stuff going on on CL just like there is a LOT of honest stuff going on on roads and in homes and apartments.

Freedom brings risk.


7 posted on 02/24/2011 3:39:51 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Smogger

I am not a huge craigslist supporter as they are libs but it is a generally a good service. You are going to get crazies and have to be very careful. If people are concerned - use eBay.


8 posted on 02/24/2011 3:41:01 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Smogger

Not surprising. Craigslist is killing the newspapers, and some form of attack was inevitable.


9 posted on 02/24/2011 3:41:14 PM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Smogger

What a below the belt, scummy tactic by oodle, it’s already backfiring


10 posted on 02/24/2011 3:43:35 PM PST by mewykwistmas ("If the Egyptians are hungry, let them eat ethanol")
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To: Smogger; Tijeras_Slim; martin_fierro

I blame that damn peace symbol that shows up in every browser window.


11 posted on 02/24/2011 3:43:56 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Smogger
Zollman's firm was retained by Craigslist competitor Oodle, which powers Facebook Marketplace.

Unbiased reporting at its finest.

12 posted on 02/24/2011 3:44:05 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Interesting Times
Craigslist is killing the newspapers, and some form of attack was inevitable.

More precisely, Craigslist is going after the classifieds niche that the "free weekly" papers, which are extremely Left, depend on.

13 posted on 02/24/2011 3:46:39 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Frantzie
If people are concerned - use eBay.

Yes, I'd much rather get ripped off or taken advantage of, by ebay-Paypal. They are far more predictable and quantifiable about it.

14 posted on 02/24/2011 3:50:25 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (BYOST -- bring your own sark tag. Thank you.)
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To: Tribune7

“Anyway, isn’t the left always saying media does not affect behavior? Why would they go after Craigslist now?”

By having local, free, classified ads, Craigslist has decimated one of the cash cows of the newspapers and is one of the main reasons you are seeing cutbacks in news staffs and year after year losses by the old media. Newspapers overwhelmingly support the left. Therefore, Craigslist is evil.

I wouldn’t be surprised to find a ‘shut-down-craigs-list’ provision tucked away in some obscure FCC regulation sometime in the next couple of years.

I suspect Craigslist is hurting the left more, long term, than is Rush Limbaugh. They get billions of dollars a year in free advertising from newspapers. What would it cost to buy every slobbering front page headline about Zero? What would it cost to purchase the spiking of stories about William Ayers and Zero’s other terrorist connections? What would it cost to have thousands of highly qualified people doing free opposition research for you (we politely call those people reporters—but by and large they are free oppo researchers for the dems)? The left gets all that for free now. Each newspaper that goes out of business or has to cut back on reporters employed is a little loss for the left.

And all because of free classifieds on Craigslist.


15 posted on 02/24/2011 3:52:36 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Smogger

The dog that yelps is the one that was hit


16 posted on 02/24/2011 3:55:47 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Smogger

I’m not sure about the “cesspool of crime” accusation, but it dam sure is a cesspool of scammers.


17 posted on 02/24/2011 3:57:50 PM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I buy and sell things all the time on Craigslist.
Craigslist is a valuable tool (and free).

As in all things, common sense prevails. I have run into scams and requests to deliver as you noted.

I simply do not do it.

There will be another buyer or seller tomorrow.


18 posted on 02/24/2011 4:02:55 PM PST by super7man
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To: Smogger
Craigslist is snapshot of society as a whole.

But a lot safer.

19 posted on 02/24/2011 4:12:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: Smogger
"cesspool of crime"

Words mean things and the author destroyed his chances of being taken seriously with such hyperbole.

20 posted on 02/24/2011 4:14:13 PM PST by cicero2k
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