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Too little too late Marty....I am sure Gov Walker's memory is long enough to remember when you said this....."It's like the plantation owner talking to the slaves. We've moved in Walker's mentality from public service to public servitude," Beil explained to FOX 11. When asked "Do you really think comparison to plantation owner and slave is accurate?" Beil replied: "I do. I really do because here he sits as the incoming governor, basically issuing mandates about what he wants to happen"

To all those OUTSIDE the State of Wisconsin, let me explain what this is really ALL about as far as union leaders like Beil are concerned......Part of the bill that takes much or the collective bargaining rights away from the unions. This is true, but what REALLY has Beil up in arms is that his workers would no longer be REQUIRED to belong to the union. Right now, state and gov't employees in Wisconsin are not required to be in the union, but they are required to pay union dues whether they are or not. Those dues are deducted AUTOMATICALLY from gov't employees paychecks and sent on to the union. The new law would eliminate this and the employees could be free to be in the union, but they would have to write a check EACH month for their union dues. They could also choose to NOT write a check, not be in the union, and keep that money themselves. The union KNOWS many will choose to keep their cash and the unions will soon be broke, with no money to send to the Democrat Party each election. THAT is what has the union leaders scared to death, their gravy train is coming to an end.

Scott Walker has always done what he says he is going to do, I would be shocked if he caves now.

1 posted on 02/18/2011 1:33:54 PM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy

Translation=the public is overwhelmingly against them.


2 posted on 02/18/2011 1:37:01 PM PST by Ballygrl
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To: milwguy

NO need to cave or make concessions. The Gov. has momentum and support, he really needs to run with getting everything needed to fix this union mess.


3 posted on 02/18/2011 1:37:30 PM PST by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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They voiced other concessions and ideas a few days before the budget came out to the public in a plan to be asked to sit at the table. Walker flipped them the proverbial middle digit and I doubt will fold on this.


4 posted on 02/18/2011 1:37:55 PM PST by chichipow
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Don’t give in! This is not just about the current budget. It is about future budgets too. If their ability to collectively bargain is not repealed, there is nothing to stop them from continuing the rape the taxpayers in future years. Republicans may not have the majorities or political will to have a chance to pass this measure again.


5 posted on 02/18/2011 1:38:40 PM PST by arista
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This is a sign of weakness. They know the public is increasingly fed up sith their bullying.

Time to go for the kill, Governor!


6 posted on 02/18/2011 1:39:03 PM PST by jtal
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To: milwguy
tenure
7 posted on 02/18/2011 1:40:08 PM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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Now we have Union officials trying to posture themselves as publicly elected representatives. No one voted for this guy, but he’s trying to redraft the bill.


9 posted on 02/18/2011 1:40:25 PM PST by purplelobster
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To: milwguy

JUST HELL NO!


10 posted on 02/18/2011 1:41:19 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: milwguy

That dog won’t hunt because that dog is dead.

Scott Walker now has a chance to demonstrate he has the kind of leadership it will take to reverse the course not only for Wisconsin but the nation.

I don’t think he will blow it by caving in to some tinhorn union thug.


11 posted on 02/18/2011 1:41:24 PM PST by bigbob (-)
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Throw the greedy, union thugs in jail!


12 posted on 02/18/2011 1:41:54 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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The unions can’t retain collective bargaining rights (except for salary) as they drag out their contracts an average of 15 months. They have been known to go the whole two years out of contract before signing.

Any changes that Scott is asking for regarding pensions and health insurance premiums would need to be agreed to by the union and the state would be held hostage to Marty Beill and his professional extortionists if the collective bargaining rights were allowed to remain. And one of the things AFSCME would never agree to is for the state to stop collecting their union dues for them.

Scott Walker knows he needs to go for whole shebang.


13 posted on 02/18/2011 1:42:45 PM PST by chickadee
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...God-given right to join a real union...

For the life of me, I can't find any reference in the DOI, Constitution, or Bible about being in unions.

14 posted on 02/18/2011 1:43:21 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (I direct my vile hate speach and eliminationist rhetoric at this joke of a government.)
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The NEA gave $50.4 Million to Political Contributions and Lobbying in 2010, 99% to Democrats. The AFT gave $18.8 Million to Political Contributions and Lobbying in 2010, 99% to Democrats. These numbers do not include money given to Liberal causes or activities encouraging voting.
One of the reasons that the Media favors the unions is because the media is on the receiving end of those millions and millions of dollars paid for campaign ads. Follow the money. Union political ads add to the media’s coffers.


15 posted on 02/18/2011 1:44:43 PM PST by madinmadtown
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"...he sits as the incoming governor, basically issuing mandates about what he wants to happen"

I would say he is issuing mandates about what's GONNA happen.

16 posted on 02/18/2011 1:46:57 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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we will not - I repeat we will not - be denied our rights to collectively bargain

Apparently, this thug is pretty scared those "rights" are going to be yanked away, or he wouldn't be offering these "concessions."

17 posted on 02/18/2011 1:50:42 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: milwguy

Thanks for the info. I was not aware of the ‘voluntary’ dues aspect. How wonderful. I hope Walker, as you say he will, sticks to his guns.


18 posted on 02/18/2011 1:50:58 PM PST by eureka! (Tea Party = Real Americans' ACORN --the ground game will save us.)
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"We are prepared to implement the financial concessions proposed to help bring our state's budget into balance, but we will not be denied our God-given right to join a real union . . .  we will not - I repeat we will not - be denied our rights to collectively bargain," Beil said in a statement.

Too damn bad. The local, state, and federal government encroaches on citizen's rights all the time. Public sector workers serve the public and are paid by the tax revenue they generate. So, to paraphrase Obama:

We vote and pay your taxes. Our views have been expressed at the ballot box and we won. So on that, I think we trump you.

20 posted on 02/18/2011 1:55:25 PM PST by edpc (It's Kräusened)
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“I would be shocked if he caves now.”

Me too.

I’ve never been prouder to be a cheese-eater. (Although I’m not quite use to having my fine WI cheese with this much French Whine from the nothing-butt-backside senate Dems.)

Right now is when a system-wide voucher plan should be proposed. When the immaturity and unreliability of the current system is on such obvious display.

Hey, let’s be democratic about this. Hand out the vouchers and see how many families voluntarily attend the union schools.


21 posted on 02/18/2011 1:55:52 PM PST by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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the unions stonewalled in December. So Scott walker sees a solution and now the Unions are crying and protesting with the aide and abetting by Odumbo and the National DNC. To the Union go to Odumbo and cry on his shoulder. Bunch of babies you will lose your jobs and join the unemployment lines. Good get rid of the union that is no good and worthless.


27 posted on 02/18/2011 2:22:50 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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