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Gates, Rumsfeld Sued Over U.S. Military's Rape Epidemic
Yahoo News ^ | 15Feb2011 | Jesse Ellison

Posted on 02/15/2011 8:17:11 AM PST by ConorMacNessa

A landmark lawsuit filed Tuesday against Defense Secretary Robert Gates and his predecessor, Donald Rumsfeld, alleges that the military's repeated failures to take action in rape cases created a culture where violence against women was tolerated, violating the plaintiffs’ Constitutional rights.

“There are three types of women in the Army,” says Rebecca Havrilla, a former sergeant and explosive-ordnance-disposal technician. “Bitch, dyke, and whore.” During the four years that Havrilla was on active duty, she was called all three—by fellow soldiers, team leaders, even unit commanders. Once, during a sexual-assault prevention training, the 28-year-old South Carolina native claims, she watched a fellow soldier—male—strip naked and dance on top of a table as the rest of the team laughed. While deployed in Afghanistan, Havrilla spent four months working under a man she alleges bit her neck, pulled her into his bed, and grabbed her butt and waist—on a daily basis. When, on the last day of her deployment, she alleges she was raped by a soldier she considered a friend, it was, she says, “the icing on the cake.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gates; military; rape; rumsfeld; sexualassault
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To: ConorMacNessa

The timing is suspicious. Obama tanking? Lets create hundreds of distractions.


21 posted on 02/15/2011 8:31:40 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: ConorMacNessa

Having been a woman in a so-called “man’s” business for most of my hot-looking years, it certainly passes the smell test for me. I was manhandled in supply closets, under the table at business meetings in front of my boss, in elevators. One of my bosses (from a Fortune 500 corporation) actually drove 40 miles to show up at my doorstep and explain that his wife was out of town and he knew that I wanted him. The only way I could get rid of him was to say, “Please, no birth control — I want to have your baby!” He was out of there in a flash. He refused to promote me unless I went “with” him on a business trip. That’s when I left and started my own business, which I ran on my own terms. But successful self-employment is infinitessimally harder than corporate employment— you’re never not working — and my health suffered accordingly. Thanks so much, pigs.


22 posted on 02/15/2011 8:32:44 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Thank you Foxwell and Christian Engineer Max,

the soldier’s world is not a place women should be and that goes quadruple for combat situations.

I speak as a 10-year Air Force vet who had plenty of her share of “sexual assault” stuff. But I was never stupid enough to report it as it wasn’t worth the bother and I understood where I was. Same stuff happened outside the military - you have to, as a female, be WARE of males and conduct yourself with care and vigilance.


23 posted on 02/15/2011 8:33:41 AM PST by marychesnutfan
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To: listenhillary

I’ve heard allegations of rape threat by lesbians on straight women. Maybe they should address those at the same time.


24 posted on 02/15/2011 8:34:04 AM PST by Eva
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To: ConorMacNessa

Give me a break


25 posted on 02/15/2011 8:35:37 AM PST by therightliveswithus
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To: ConorMacNessa
It;s hard to have faith in our Country when this kind of stuff 'goes down'. Will Obama be sued when 'Gay on Gay' rape occurs - or has already occurred?

The biggest hate crime against America is that perped by the Left and their agenda by every modality they use to push it, shove it, down collective America's throat.

26 posted on 02/15/2011 8:37:10 AM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . . .and Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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To: Albion Wilde

Sorry for your trouble but your ‘smell test’ doesn’t relate to this. You guys see a headline and jump right in on her side. Hell, who files a lawsuit against a guy who JUST launched his book? Plus Gates was Bush. Fine, Identify the guy who raped you, identify the guys who molested you and have them arrested. Press a criminal suit, not a civil action. How about waiting to see further proof?


27 posted on 02/15/2011 8:38:02 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Friend of mine in the armed forces told me that many of the
woman soldiers were doing “tricks” for men soldiers...he told
me that’s how they upped their pay..

I would guess that rape,prostitution,”brown nosing”(in the businees
sense) will always occur(not 100%) when men are with the ladies for more
than a few days...isn’t that why they were segregated in
the first place?


28 posted on 02/15/2011 8:38:02 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

The Equality Myth???????????? And you guys are buying this crap???? FemiNazi’s!


29 posted on 02/15/2011 8:40:28 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Congress woman Patsy Shroeder redux...


30 posted on 02/15/2011 8:41:25 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: ConorMacNessa

They forgot to release this article yesterday, on Valentine’s Day. </sarc>


31 posted on 02/15/2011 8:42:45 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
Yep. They build up warrior men, then expect them to be docile little puppies around women. Insane.

The warrior ethic needs to be a spiritual thing in addition to a mechanical thing. I think most services do a pretty good job of instilling a sense of honor in our warriors, but it's something that can always use more attention.

That said, psychopaths exist in all parts of society and some of them get into the military. It'll always happen.

And *that* said... there is a price to pay for having women in the military in the first place. Problems like this were predicted.

32 posted on 02/15/2011 8:45:00 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: ConorMacNessa
Rape epidemic?

This is false, of course.

Crimes happen all over. But the only "rape epidemic" that I know of is in prisons.

This seems like a volley of false and exaggerated charges for the sole purpose of undermining the morale and harmony among our men and women in the military.

Notwithstanding a predictable level of criminal behavior in any segment of society, I believe that our the military takes sexual discrimination and sexual harassment and criminal sexual behavior quite seriously.

(Ask this proud Dad of two daughters in uniform.)

.

33 posted on 02/15/2011 8:45:03 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Doc Savage

I see that you didn’t read the article, about evidence being suppressed or “lost”, and the chain of command regarding such allegations. When it comes to “proof” or evidence, an enlisted person just can’t go out and call the LEO’s to start investigating on a military base when they have been raped.

As for Rumsfeld’s book tour or the reasoning of the law suit, it was probably her lawyer’s idea to time it this way, and I can’t say I blame him. I don’t think the suit will succeed in troubling Rumsfeld or Gates; but I do think it will shed light in an area that very much needs airing out, especially with the military playground for gays and lesbians all set to open up.

By the way, I have always been against the idea of women serving alongside men in the army, firefighters, police and/or the clergy. This is only one of the reasons.


34 posted on 02/15/2011 8:45:32 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Ramius

Wheres the discipline? In WWII there would be courts martial
and the noose for rape.

There is no excuse for this. Warrior ethic, my foot. These are not warriors picking on their female counterparts. These are horndogs with no sense of honor.

Sex between soldiers was prohibited by regs, or so I thought. Whats wrong with the officers these days?


35 posted on 02/15/2011 8:55:15 AM PST by rahbert
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To: ConorMacNessa

Repeal DADT, wait till May-June, SHTF!!!!


36 posted on 02/15/2011 8:55:28 AM PST by Waco (From Seward to Sara)
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To: Albion Wilde
But successful self-employment is infinitessimally harder than corporate employment

The word is "infinitesimally", and it doesn't mean "a whole lot more"; it means "practically no more at all."

37 posted on 02/15/2011 8:56:31 AM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: Albion Wilde
But successful self-employment is infinitessimally harder than corporate employment...

Huh?

38 posted on 02/15/2011 9:01:02 AM PST by TankerKC (Confucius say, he who rushes to vote on bill before reading, might forget severability clause.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Yessiree, it’s Obama campaign season...


39 posted on 02/15/2011 9:05:04 AM PST by Freddd
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To: AppyPappy

Fortunately, for the time being anyhow, women are still excluded from “Combat Arms” outfits.

It is also the case that the larger percentage of women and “minorities” spend an inordinate time in the rear with gear when compared to white males of western European extraction.

Well that was so the last time that I checked.

Been a while.


40 posted on 02/15/2011 9:06:51 AM PST by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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