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Rumsfeld: "Time Has Come" To Allow Gays To Serve Openly
ABC News ^ | 2/11/11 | Steven Portnoy

Posted on 02/12/2011 6:12:20 PM PST by FTJM

Former defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld, who served at the Pentagon under two Republican presidents, says the “time has come” time for gays and lesbians to serve openly in the US military.

Two months after President Obama signed a law that will lead to the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, Rumsfeld told ABC News Radio that the nation is ready for open service.

“First of all, we know that gays and lesbians have been serving in the military for decades with honorable service,” Rumsfeld said. “We know that [repeal of a ban on gays serving openly] is an idea whose time has come.”

Rumsfeld says he has “enormous respect” for the ground commanders and service chiefs who have expressed concerns about the impact of gays serving openly on unit cohesion, and he urged the top brass to implement the new law “with care.”

But Rumsfeld says that congress, which passed the repeal bill in the waning days of the last session, has expressed the will of the American people.

“We’ve seen it evolve in our country,” Rumsfeld said of the nation’s perception of gays and lesbians, reiterating that many have served in uniform with distinction.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dadt; fdrq; homo; homosexualagenda; ronpaul; rumsfeld; rumsfeldhomolover; rumsfeldloveshomos
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To: FTJM

Rumsfeld says it is the will of the people??? Where are his stats on this? I used to think Rumsfeld was a truth speaker but this latest burst makes me think he was and is nothing more than an approval seeker. However, I might veer my mind on this if someone can clue me in on what the Founding Fathers thought about homosexualality.


61 posted on 02/12/2011 7:04:20 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: FTJM

Rumsfeld says it is the will of the people??? Where are his stats on this? I used to think Rumsfeld was a truth speaker but this latest burst makes me think he was and is nothing more than an approval seeker. However, I might veer my mind on this if someone can clue me in on what the Founding Fathers thought about homosexualality.


62 posted on 02/12/2011 7:04:35 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: FTJM

Rumsfeld says it is the will of the people??? Where are his stats on this? I used to think Rumsfeld was a truth speaker but this latest burst makes me think he was and is nothing more than an approval seeker. However, I might veer my mind on this if someone can clue me in on what the Founding Fathers thought about homosexualality.


63 posted on 02/12/2011 7:04:51 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: central_va

damn right and even here though we have pro queer idiots,

if only


64 posted on 02/12/2011 7:05:10 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: FTJM
Have these idiots not learned a thing from history?

Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire

And don't forget the Greeks where they separate the men from the boys - with a crowbar

65 posted on 02/12/2011 7:06:14 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: little jeremiah

GOProud? What they want is to GOPROUDLY, right up the posterior of the man in front of them!


66 posted on 02/12/2011 7:06:48 PM PST by outhousepatrol
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To: noinfringers2
In Washington’s Army Sodomy “Infamous Crime” Deserving “Abhorrence/and Detestation;” Shalikashvili Says No Problem, Open Sex Perverts Should Be Recruited Into Our Military
67 posted on 02/12/2011 7:07:58 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: manc

Your fighting spirit is just what the doctor ordered. The only reason the fags and their supporters have the power they have is because not enough people have had the fighting spirit.


68 posted on 02/12/2011 7:08:02 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

we need Demint or someone with balls to fight this perversion

They are trying to make it look like that they’re a majority when they are not

People are not thinking when it comes to these same sex people and what they want because of how they get off

Bush was a complete failure , I want to see a real conservative who will stand up for Americans and morals not some pansy who says we have to reach out and be a big tent

all these people care about is their power and wealth, we care about this country and her future


69 posted on 02/12/2011 7:08:58 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: onyx
Makes ya wonder how many homosexuals hold power.

A lot of them. And they control a lot of money also.

70 posted on 02/12/2011 7:13:19 PM PST by sport
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To: centurion316
Rumsfeld is and always has been a complete idiot. His view on this subject is simply another piece of evidence proving the point. He idiocy was on full display during the early days of the War on Terror, but many on this forum were in full denial shouting, RUMMY, RUMMY, RUMMY without any critical analysis of who the guy really was. Rumsfeld, Bremer, and Sanchez were the architects of failure in the early days of Iraq and its time for Freepers to wake up and realize what a loser this guy really is.

His tenure as Sec of Def under Ford wasn't so great either. When W picked him the word BOHICA came to mind. He started a military downturn under Ford that took several years to recover from.

71 posted on 02/12/2011 7:14:00 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: FTJM

Perverted homosexuals chant they were born that way. Yet when you apply that same line of bs to any other perversion. The homosexuals chant it is learned. So when is the military going to start allowing child molesters, rapist, people into incest, people into bestiality, people into sex with dead bodies, and so on and so on? Hell under the perverted homosexuals chant of born that way. Homophobes can use it.


72 posted on 02/12/2011 7:15:44 PM PST by DMG2FUN
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To: sport

Sorry Donald, just as I don’t agree with men and women serving in combat, a couple of gays or one gay and a willing accomplice in a foxhole could compromise the whole platoon or company. Give it a rest. Common sense should rule on this one, as witnessed by the United States Marine Corps. Semper Fi.


73 posted on 02/12/2011 7:15:47 PM PST by yorkie01
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To: manc

They care about their power and their wealth, and their parties, and popularity with other elites, and their private perversions and vices.

One thing we need to fully grasp - there ARE MORE OF US THAN THERE ARE OF THEM!!!!


74 posted on 02/12/2011 7:16:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: FTJM

Personally, I think that any homosexual in the military who lets it be known they are a homosexual, is an idiot.

1) To start with, the military is not about sexuality in the first place. It is not a jobs program, or a social laboratory. As Rush Limbaugh succinctly puts it, “The purpose of a military is to kill people and break things.” Anything that distracts from that mission diminishes that mission. By this I mean that it gets *our* people killed and *our* stuff broken.

2) The reason that females are not permitted in combat units is because many males have an instinctual response when they see or think they see a female in danger. Instinctual responses cannot be trained out of a person, group therapied out of a person, or ordered out of a person. And though some females are physically and mentally capable of serving in a combat unit, they are outnumbered 10 or 20 to 1 by males who would be handicapped in their presence.

Likewise, many men have an instinctual revulsion to homosexuals. And in a percentage of those men, this revulsion is to the extent of homicide. It is impossible to distinguish them from other men, yet again their numbers are so significantly greater, and their superiority as soldiers is so great, that no number of homosexuals could make up for their loss.

3) Homosexuality has nothing to do with job performance, but the declaration of homosexuality has as its purpose ulterior motives outside of job performance. But what would these motives be?

Generally, it would be to assert that the individual was a member of a “protected class”, to evade performance of their duties. Likewise, this inherently contains a threat of complaint, jumping the chain of command, if they are still required to perform their duties. In either case it is intolerable within the ranks.

Otherwise, declaration of homosexuality would be to object to responses to a previous declaration of homosexuality. For example, a soldier tells their peers that they are homosexual, and they socially reject him because of it. So the homosexual complains to a superior about his social rejection as a demand that his peers be ordered to accept his homosexuality and readmit him to their peer group.

In other words, for a homosexual to declare their homosexuality either means that he wants special favors, or to use his homosexuality to force others to respect him for it.


75 posted on 02/12/2011 7:20:45 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: FTJM

I hope this ends the hero worship of this man. File him with Cheney.


76 posted on 02/12/2011 7:21:46 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: manc

Stock up,even the ones some here hail,turn their back on you.Don’t be surprised,be prepared.


77 posted on 02/12/2011 7:23:41 PM PST by silentreignofheroes
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To: prairiebreeze

The GOP has decided that social issues aren’t to be addressed. It just may be their downfall.
____________________________________________________________

They should take a look at how that strategy worked out in Massachusetts this past November....

New Mass. Republican Party Chairman says party will no longer oppose same-sex “marriage”, abortion, other “social issues”
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/09b/nassour/index.html

Mass GOP convention nominates most extreme pro-gay Governor & Lt. Governor candidates in history
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/10b/gop_convention/index.html

Mass. GOP Lt. Governor candidate Tisei gives interview to homosexual magazine — pushing gay agenda
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/tisei_spirit_mag/index.html

GOP Candidate for Governor Charlie Baker marches with hateful anti-family homosexual activist leaders in Gay Pride parade
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/10c/pride_week/baker.html

Mass. Republicans lose ALL statewide & Congressional races
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/general/results_statewide.html

Mass. Republican Party’s RINO strategy a big part of election losses in top state races
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/gop_strategy/index.html


78 posted on 02/12/2011 7:25:41 PM PST by massmike (DADT repeal: the Boy Scouts now have tougher membership requirements than the Army!)
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To: FTJM

Are there no men left in the GOP?


79 posted on 02/12/2011 7:27:12 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: FTJM

How about poodle plookers, Rummy? How about pedophiles? Maybe we could toss in a few rapists for good measure to ensure this little social experiment is complete?


80 posted on 02/12/2011 7:27:35 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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