Third of Russians think sun spins round Earth?

Reuters ^ | Feb 11, 2011 | Alissa de Carbonnel

[george76]

Does the sun revolve around the Earth? One in every three Russians thinks so, a spokeswoman for state pollster VsTIOM said on Friday.

In a survey released this week, 32 percent of Russians believed the Earth was the center of the Solar system; 55 percent that all radioactivity is man-made; and 29 percent that the first humans lived when dinosaurs still roamed the Earth.

[odds]

Excellent.. I miss Baker St in London.

[Leaning Right]

The same guys who are arming Iran and providing technical assitance to their nuclear programme, no?

One school of thought is that Russia is in Iran mainly to cause us trouble, to counterbalance us.

I wonder...suppose Bush had not pushed NATO right up to the Russian border, which was a tremendous insult to the Russians, and instead offered Russia a strategic partnership...maybe Russia would not be meddling in Iran today.

But then again, maybe Russia would have taken the partnership and then expanded its influence anyway. But IMHO Bush should have at least tried to work something out.

[Big Bronson]

“The Daisey Mae’s are flawed.”

I didn’t catch that. Now I’ll have to go back and look more closely.

[SunkenCiv]

I think I’d wind up humming that tune if I found myself winding my way down Baker St. :’)

[odds]

Ya know, when I wrote Baker St I meant it as in the traditional home of Sherlock Holmes in Baker ST London. BUT, just after thought of Gerry Rafferty’s song “Baker St”, lol.. just listened to it on youtube - great tune, they don’t make music like that anymore!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkS169P_Eeo

[null and void]

The Daisey Mae’s are flawed. They are hemmed rather than authentically frayed

Yeah, and her bangs are a little too long for my tastes, but I'm a big enough man to overlook a few minor flaws.

Besides, if they really offend you, maybe you can get her to take them off...

[null and void]

Wouldn’t it be a hoot if Russia joined NATO?

[SunkenCiv]

It’s interesting and a little amusing that when ACD was writing the Holmes stuff, the address he used for the detective didn’t exist; later on the address was created by knocking out a wall and connecting a couple of existing apartments. Er, I mean flats.

[SunkenCiv]

In retrospect, it would have been more apropos to have used Jethro Tull’s “Baker St Muse”.

[GourmetDan]

A few quotes from men who understand General Relativity wrt geocentrism.

“Can we formulate physical laws so that they are valid for all CS [coordinate systems], not only those moving uniformly, but also those moving quite arbitrarily, relative to each other? […] The struggle, so violent in the early days of science, between the views of Ptolemy and Copernicus would then be quite meaningless. Either CS could be used with equal justification. The two sentences: “the sun is at rest and the earth moves” or “the sun moves and the earth is at rest” would simply mean two different conventions concerning two different CS.”

Einstein, A. and Infeld, L. (1938) The Evolution of Physics, p.212 (p.248 in original 1938 ed.);
Note: CS = coordinate system

“The relation of the two pictures [geocentricity and heliocentricity] is reduced to a mere coordinate transformation and it is the main tenet of the Einstein theory that any two ways of looking at the world which are related to each other by a coordinate transformation are entirely equivalent from a physical point of view.... Today we cannot say that the Copernican theory is ‘right’ and the Ptolemaic theory ‘wrong’ in any meaningful physical sense.”

Hoyle, Fred. Nicolaus Copernicus. London: Heinemann Educational Books Ltd., 1973.

“...Thus we may return to Ptolemy’s point of view of a ‘motionless earth’...One has to show that the transformed metric can be regarded as produced according to Einstein’s field equations, by distant rotating masses. This has been done by Thirring. He calculated a field due to a rotating, hollow, thick-walled sphere and proved that inside the cavity it behaved as though there were centrifugal and other inertial forces usually attributed to absolute space. Thus from Einstein’s point of view, Ptolemy and Corpenicus are equally right.”

Born, Max. “Einstein’s Theory of Relativity”,Dover Publications,1962, pgs 344 & 345:

“People need to be aware that there is a range of models that could explain the observations,” Ellis argues. “For instance, I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it based on observations.” Ellis has published a paper on this. “You can only exclude it on philosophical grounds. In my view there is absolutely nothing wrong in that. What I want to bring into the open is the fact that we are using philosophical criteria in choosing our models. A lot of cosmology tries to hide that.”

Ellis, George, in Scientific American, “Thinking Globally, Acting Universally”, October 1995

[odds]

I lived in London yrs ago, and it’s been a while since visiting Sherlock Holmes’ site in Baker St London. You’re right apartments are traditionally called flats in the UK. IIRC, there was a bit of an explanation there how the site came to be, tho I can’t remember details.. as you know, Baker St is a major tourist attraction in London.

[odds]

I do like Jethro Tull’s “Baker St Muse”. To me, more folk rock & not as classic as Gerry Rafferty’s Baker St. Muse is very English (I’m comparing to Australia). Muse reminds me of a different London, very quaint, narrow & charming type of alleys/streets often with flowers sitting on windowsills.

[odds]

Though I’m referring to actual mews (narrow st) vs. muse in the song.

[Condor51]

Third of Russians think sun spins round Earth?

Big deal. Everyone who lives in Manhattan thinks the entire Universe revolves around Times Square. Just ask the Editors at the NY Slimes or that tyrant midget mayor, Bloomie.

Even Rooty Julie-Annie thinks that from the West bank of the Hudson River to the Eastern border of Los Angeles, it's a vast wasteland where nobody lives.

But Bloomie is *smarter* in that respect. He knows its not a 'wasteland'. Just that it's occupied by toothless inbred redneck killers, and 37 bazillion Gun Factories. Whose sole aim is to flood NYC with illegal guns so New Yorkers can eventually kill themselves off. Then the toothless inbred redneck killers can occupy HIS city and eat food with Salt.

So the Ruskies have nothing on the egomaniac snobs of NYC.

[SunkenCiv]

That might be a good CD to drop in while I (eventually) get to household chores today, it’s been awhile (both that CD, and these chores).

[odds]

lol, ok, have a good w/end :)

[rideharddiefast]

Well 99% of the paulbots think the sun rises only because of their savior.

[EvasiveManuever]

In fact, you can work out the math to show that the entire universe revolves around YOU

I don't need math for that. I can see it as a first hand observation. Ya'll are welcome to stay around though.

[RichInOC]

Even in post-Soviet Russia...

[Almondjoy]

I believed all 3. My world has just come to an end. I’ll have to question everything I believe. What’s next Muslims will stop loving peace and start doing terrorist attacks?