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NASA’s Hathaway revises the sunspot prediction down again
Watts Up With That? ^ | February 9, 2011 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 02/10/2011 11:01:24 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

From the Marshall Space Flight Center, Dr. Hathaway’s page:

Current prediction for the next sunspot cycle maximum gives a smoothed sunspot number maximum of about 58 in July of 2013. We are currently two years into Cycle 24 and the predicted size continues to fall.

Additionally, the monthly data plots are out, and there’s been little change from last month in the three major solar indexes plotted by the Space Weather Prediction Center:

h/t to WUWT reader harrywr2



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarminghoax; sunspots
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1 posted on 02/10/2011 11:01:26 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And this means: hotter, cooler, or no change in earth’s temperature?


2 posted on 02/10/2011 11:03:57 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Looks like more pain for AlGore and his merry band of nitwits.


3 posted on 02/10/2011 11:10:03 AM PST by LoneStarC
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To: GreyFriar

Cooler and probably wetter.


4 posted on 02/10/2011 11:11:36 AM PST by texmexis best
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To: GreyFriar

I am only guessing, but it appears the Supreme Power that Is may be turning the microwave down to 3 or 4 from the 4 or 5 setting that upset Al Gore so terribly.


5 posted on 02/10/2011 11:12:14 AM PST by azhenfud (The government is not best which secures life and property-there is a more valuable thing-manhood.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Constant revisions by NASA means . . . they don’t have the first clue what will happen until it happens.


6 posted on 02/10/2011 11:13:01 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier preparing to deploy to Afghanistan)
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To: GreyFriar
Pick one, it's still “climate change”; and that means you need: cap-and-trade, drilling bans, higher gas prices, and curly light bulbs. Oh, and you also need to burn food for fuel.
7 posted on 02/10/2011 11:18:45 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: steelyourfaith

ping


8 posted on 02/10/2011 11:33:51 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wait! What? You mean the sun has an influence on the Earth’s weather? Get out! No way! Whoda thunk it? /< sarcasm>


9 posted on 02/10/2011 11:34:06 AM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: texmexis best

Wait, so that giant ball of thermonuclear fusion in the sky affects our planet’s thermal balance? I thought my Chevy Silverado was responsible for that...


10 posted on 02/10/2011 11:34:36 AM PST by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: GreyFriar; steelyourfaith; SunkenCiv; neverdem; cogitator; sionnsar
And this means: hotter, cooler, or no change in earth’s temperature?

Well, we don't know. (And anybody who pretends to know, doesn't know they don't know.)

The solar cycle 24 predictions were ORIGINALLY (back in 2006-2008 timeframe) predicted to peak in 2011-2012 (Yes, that means right about now!) between 150 - 170. Now, that same solar cycle 24 “might” peak in 2013-2014 at less than 60.

What does it mean for temperatures?

We don't know. Last time the solar sunspot count and solar flux were this low for this long for three consecutive sunspot cycles - which might be cycles 24-25-26, we experienced the Maunder Minimum and extremely low temperatures for almost 70+ years.

11 posted on 02/10/2011 11:38:51 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They can’t predict change in Earth climate. How can they expect to predict changes on the Sun?


12 posted on 02/10/2011 11:44:00 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
"They can’t predict change in Earth climate. How can they expect to predict changes on the Sun?"

Because the sun has been more easily observable for far longer than the earth (telescopes vs. satellites). Lots longer baseline for solar observations than for the earth.

13 posted on 02/10/2011 11:49:15 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: texmexis best
Cooler and probably wetter.

Yeah...try 400 years,

Mini ice age coming up.

14 posted on 02/10/2011 11:49:16 AM PST by spokeshave (WTF....the only thing 0bambi's investments will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy.)
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To: spokeshave

There is at least one researcher who feels that we are going into a Dalton Minimum, which would be very cold. We won’t know for a while.


15 posted on 02/10/2011 11:54:14 AM PST by texmexis best
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Thank you for the explanation. When was the Maunder Minimum?


16 posted on 02/10/2011 11:59:31 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well, shucks! Here I have been rebuilding and upgrading my ham radio station, and now they’re telling me we’re going to get a crummy solar maximum!

It’s Bush’s fault!


17 posted on 02/10/2011 12:00:46 PM PST by G-Bear (Always leave your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark.)
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To: SirKit

Hansen-Gore Minimum ping!!


18 posted on 02/10/2011 12:06:17 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

“Well, we don’t know. (And anybody who pretends to know, doesn’t know they don’t know.)”

Let me start by saying, I’m not challenging, I’m asking because I want to understand:

I was of the belief that sunspots = solar flares. In that case, sunspots would lead to large ejections of plasma energy into the solar system. It seems to me that would have a heating effect on the surrounding planets?

BTW, if you are a PE, I respect that a great deal. Before I had a career change, I saw that as a lofty goal that I wanted to try for one day.


19 posted on 02/10/2011 12:09:57 PM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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In-other-words-we-have-no-idea-and-might-as-well-be-worshiping-it ping.

"Space Energy/Solar Weirdness" ping.


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FReepmail me if you want on or off

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Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

20 posted on 02/10/2011 12:23:26 PM PST by The Comedian (Muslim Brotherhood = A.N.S.W.E.R = Soros = Obama)
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