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US Drones Trump China Theatrics
The Diplomat ^ | 2/7/2011 | David Axe

Posted on 02/09/2011 9:59:24 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Call it China’s ‘Christmas surprise.’ In a series of grainy photos given a pass by government Internet censors starting December 25, the People’s Liberation Army Air Force unveiled the country’s first stealth fighter prototype, the Chengdu J-20.

For alarmists, the Pacific balance of power seemed to shift in an instant. Armed with hundreds of fast, elusive J-20s in coming years, the PLAAF could dominate the South China Sea, reaffirming China’s rise as a global power and elbowing aside less audacious, tech-savvy rivals. ‘(The) Asia-Pacific’s political landscape will be changed as China’s military capability can win over countries in this region,’ warns Arthur Ding, an analyst based in Taiwan.

In truth, the J-20’s appearance raises more questions than it answers. For a start, it’s unclear what the new fighter is for, how well it might perform, and how easily Beijing might transition the prototype to a mass-produced design.

(Excerpt) Read more at the-diplomat.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; globalhawk; j20; pacificocean; plaaf; southchinasea; uav; usaf

1 posted on 02/09/2011 9:59:28 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

it is a doggone close dead ringer for the F-22.

Now, that may just reflect physics realities. OR, it is a one-off from stolen data that will perform like any one-off: not bad but not like the original...

It looks like for once the intelligence community is keeping its cards close to the vest. Their blabbermouths haven’t done much to help us in the very hot cold war we are engaged in...


2 posted on 02/09/2011 10:22:53 PM PST by freedumb2003 (The TOTUS-reader is a Judas Goat, leading the American sheeple to the slaugherhouse /Parmy)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

The J-20 looks like a Mac Truck with the fit and finish of a Kia. The F-22 looks like an angel.

I think I know which one will be spotted.


3 posted on 02/09/2011 10:47:50 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Punish Success, Reward Failure. Destroying America is the point.)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
The J-20 looks like an interesting aircraft. It is probably stealthy enough to be more problematic than most other adversaries. That is, of course, if it's reliable, performs well, and has competent pilots. All of those quantities are certainly unknown at this point. It appears to be a number of years away from mass production and meaningful deployment.

I'll take this opportunity yet again to lament the end of F-22 production. I still think that was an incredibly shortsighted action, especially given that F-22 exports could have provided hundreds of very high-tech jobs, bolstered our Pacific allies, and reduced the trade deficit. The Air Force could also well use another hundred or more F-22s. A Naval variant wouldn't have been too hard to produce either - if the will to do so had existed.

On the drone front, I think a lot of good points were made in the article, except that the Global Hawk and most of our current drone fleet aren't stealthy, and would be easy targets if a relatively high-tech country like China were to go after them. Future drones like the X47-B with stealth characteristics should be extremely problematic for our adversaries.

I found this comment interesting:

In-development drones include Boeing’s Phantom Eye—an even bigger, farther-flying improvement over the Global Hawk—plus no fewer than three fast, armed, unmanned planes intended to replace manned fighter-bombers.
I'm guessing two of the drones he's referring to are the X-47B (bomber role only...probably), and the unmanned F-35 variant. Anyone have an idea what the third might be?
4 posted on 02/10/2011 2:44:30 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty
No idea ...but considering when the F-117 came out, and the B-2, and how advanced the F-22 is compared to anything else flying/about-to-fly (and considering how far back the first ATF project concept came out), I would hazard a guess that whatever is currently being developed is so advanced that it would make the F-22 seem like what the F-22 made the F-4 Phantom look like. I am concerned about China's rise, but I am not too concerned about America's dominance. In fact, I welcome news of China's 'newest and latest,' because it is such information that led to the decision that the Raptor's tooling will not be destroyed once the last Raptor rolls out, and it is also such news that I am certain will see the Raptor line continued come the elections of 2012.

As for the J-20 ...all we know so far is that it 'looks' stealthy (as far as alignment and the like), that it has internal bays, and that it is either a prototype or a technological demonstrator. Nothing else, and when it comes to stealthiness there is a lot more that goes into it. To use one example, if for instance the radar is not an advanced LPI AESA, then it really doesn't matter what the plane's external shape is. Considering that the Chinese haven't gotten their jet engine technology down pat (particularly when it comes to reliability), I highly doubt their radar technology approaches that of the SuperHornet, let alone the functionalities of the F-22/F-35 AESAs. Thus three things - the J-20 is indeed interesting and bears watching, China is developing at a frenetic pace and bears watching, and thank goodness for all the China 'super weapon' pictures and the like since they will prod the US. With the death of the USSR the US took the whole 'peace dividend' thing too seriously ...fortunately China is making that history.

Go China (as in, more pictures and chest-thumping please). When you see someone like Gates showing some concern it means that the message is getting through.

:)

5 posted on 02/10/2011 6:03:50 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

It looks like they too the wing from Boeing’s F-32 JSF entry and the F-35 forward fuselage from the intakes forward. Then borrowed the russians all movable vertical stabs or should I say earlier American designs. They canards, maybe they were unsure of the stability in pitch.


6 posted on 02/10/2011 11:10:36 AM PST by Always Independent
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