Posted on 02/01/2011 2:07:06 PM PST by AZ .44 MAG
Should all gun sales be subject to a background check? Yes, No, Undecided
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Well, we live within about three miles of downtown Miami, but the police are still about 1/2 hour out from where we live.
Gave my son (USAF Major, fighter pilot) one as a gift when he was in the state.
Does that count as a “sale”?
A good Gift from Dad to Son.
My message to the gun-grabbers is this (and before you attack it, give it some real thought):
“We hear often about ‘compromise’ in politics. Usually, liberals mean that conservatives surrender by a smaller amount than liberals had hoped, and liberals give up nothing other than the pace at which their liberal agenda advances.
So here’s a real compromise. You want all gun sales to be subject to a background check? OK, let’s say that no one can buy a gun unless they can prove they are legally qualified (old enough, not criminally disqualified).
This hard-nose gun rights extremist could live with that IF...
Only if you would agree not to collect any data on purchases. It would be like buying a bottle of booze. I show ID, the clerk checks it, records no data, and away I go. It could be my high-security driver’s license, with no gun-prohibition endorsement. If I ever became disqualified, the first thing they would do is confiscate my old license, and issue one with a gun purchase prohibition.
There would be stiff penalties for seller violations, including stings of gun shops, gun shows, and want-ad sellers who did not ask for and verify a qualified ID.
Now, with this compromise, you’re ensuring that EVERYONE gets “carded.” Which is not now the case. That’s what you gain. What you lose is the ability to collect data on every gun owner, including what models and serial numbers of guns we purchase.
But what use to you is that anyway, except to ban and then take away our guns.
You gain the benefit of keeping guns out of the hands of the unqualified, and we gain insurance against gun confiscation and subsequent tyranny. But you and your politicians never intended that, did you, so you’re really giving up nothing, right?
And the only reason we fight to keep check-free private sales is so we can know that the tyrants to be know that there are millions of guns that they have no ability to confiscate.
Remove that fear of confiscation, and we will agree to a requirement that everyone be carded when they buy a gun.
Oh, and in case you were curious, I have sold guns privately, unable to even make a free phone call to verify my buyer wasn’t a criminal. If you really care about keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, you’d have a line I could call to find this our (without revealing whether a gun was actually purchased - I’d ignore that, because I want one more gun taken outside of your confiscation database.)”
(And because they’d never go for this, don’t hate me for proposing it, because all it really does is reveal their true agenda).
I get checked each time I buy a weapon. But, because I have a conceal carry permit, I walk out with the weapon then and there!
“There is no way on God’s green earth that you could reasonably expect something like that to work between private parties.”
That’s why they want to register ALL guns. Then ALL sales, trades or gifts would have to be reported.
“...have you ever sold a firearm in a private sale to someone unknown to you?”
Yes. I’ve also declined selling to a person that I didn’t ‘feel right’ about.
Do you have a preferred caliber? LOL!
Yes I do.
See post 61.
Ohh yeahhh!
I think the Framers had it right:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I also think I understand your idea and the reason you propose it.
If the firearm you sell turns up in a bad spot, you will be meeting with ATF or FBI at some point and they can be surprisingly quick and impolite about the visit and where it takes place. Oh, the stories I've heard from reputable people...
Best idea of all is that guns you acquire shouldn't be sold. That is my personal policy. No firearm I own is for sale. The shirt I am currently wearing, yes. Guns, no.
I have no problem with a NICS check at point-of-sale for new firearms. Even the USSC's Heller decision states this is perfectly reasonable, and that's that. What I object to is that mental reject screwballs like the Tuscon shooter don't make the NICS denial list when by all accounts they should be on it.
And how are they going to get "all" guns registered? They'd have to go house to house ransacking the place and even at that they'd never get even half the guns registered.
Yeeeaaaah, baby!
Take it easy Texan,
I have about 10 various guns and a ccw
Gun mint knows of three. None of their damned bid ness.
Stay safe &stay armed
Been there.
FReeped that.
I’m pleasantly surprised to see “no” in the lead. That is, of course, the correct answer. Background checks haven’t been worth the expense and work that goes into them. Most denials are mistakes that later result in the sale going through anyway.
It's too bad your thinking is so seriously flawed.
I have several firearms for sale, should I sell them to you sight unseen or should I request validation that you are eligible to purchase a firearm? In other words, prove to me you're not a convicted felon...
FReeped it.
Yes
36%
No
62%
Undecided
2%
FReeped it.
Yes
36%
No
62%
Undecided
2%
FReeped it.
Yes
36%
No
62%
Undecided
2%
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