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The US agents tracking down sex tourists in Cambodia
BBC ^ | January 29, 2011 | David Henshaw

Posted on 01/30/2011 4:59:22 PM PST by decimon

As part of an initiative to protect children from sexual predators, including those who travel overseas, special US agents operating in South East Asia have brought more than 80 alleged child sex tourists back to America to face justice.

Sihanoukville looks like paradise, or at least a decent, low-rent version. Golden beaches, swaying palm trees, cheap alcohol and shimmering sea.

Retired American pharmacist Ronald Adams had come here for the good life - setting up a beachside cafe. But one morning last February Adams' personal vision of paradise was shattered, when officers from the Cambodian National Police raided his apartment.

They found a collection of sex aids, child pornography on DVDs and a variety of illegal drugs. Adams was accused of drugging and raping a 12-year-old girl.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: moralabsolutes; pedophile; sextourism; sextrafficking
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1 posted on 01/30/2011 4:59:23 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

How do US courts legally have jurisdiction over crimes committed abroad? This type of precedent will allow for terrorists at Club Gitmo to be tried here.


2 posted on 01/30/2011 5:01:33 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: decimon

All pedophiles should get the death penalty. All of them.


3 posted on 01/30/2011 5:04:45 PM PST by Joyell
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To: pnh102
How do US courts legally have jurisdiction over crimes committed abroad? This type of precedent will allow for terrorists at Club Gitmo to be tried here.

I'm also concerned with how this might carry over to other matters. Unless it's an established practice with just some sort of crimes.

4 posted on 01/30/2011 5:06:29 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

I know we’re broke, but since we’ll go broke anyway, this borrowed is money well spent.


5 posted on 01/30/2011 5:06:37 PM PST by mewykwistmas ("Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river. ")
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To: decimon

A Homeland Security Department function is looking for child abusers in Cambodia? How does this relate to the security of the United States? What am I missing here?


6 posted on 01/30/2011 5:07:47 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: pnh102

While I agree that sex with children is abominable, this is a minefield legally. It sets a pathway for the US government to prosecute other things you do in foreign countries. In some foreign countries, the drug laws are non-existent. So are federal agents in those countries going to return citizens to the US to stand trial even though under the laws of those countries no crime was committed? This is the opening of Pandora’s box?


7 posted on 01/30/2011 5:08:06 PM PST by MissouriConservative (Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. - H. L Mencken)
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To: Joyell
All pedophiles should get the death penalty. All of them.

I would imagine it would be more likely for these perverts to be put to death in Cambodia than here.

8 posted on 01/30/2011 5:10:19 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102

Because as long as you are a citizen there are reciprocal rights and responsibilities. The sex tourism enforcement has been brought about by a complex series of treaties.

If pharmacy boy had emigrated and given up his US citizenship, then they would be taking care of him over there. Of course... He would also be going to die, but that’s not necessarily bad.


9 posted on 01/30/2011 5:10:19 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: pnh102

They actually do. IIRC, even two US teens having sex with each other in Europe, have technically committed a felony.
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=1499
Laws Concerning Sex Tourism Involving Children

Federal Laws

18 U.S.C. § 2423 (2008)

§ 2423. TRANSPORTATION OF MINORS

(a) Transportation with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity. A person who knowingly transports an individual who has not attained the age of 18 years in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any commonwealth, territory or possession of the United States, with intent that the individual engage in prostitution, or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, shall be fined under this title and imprisoned not less than 10 years or for life.

(b) Travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual conduct. A person who travels in interstate commerce or travels into the United States, or a United States citizen or an alien admitted for permanent residence in the United States who travels in foreign commerce, for the purpose of engaging in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

(c) Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. Any United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

(d) Ancillary offenses. Whoever, for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, arranges, induces, procures, or facilitates the travel of a person knowing that such a person is traveling in interstate commerce or foreign commerce for the purpose of engaging in illicit sexual conduct shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

(e) Attempt and conspiracy. Whoever attempts or conspires to violate subsection (a), (b), (c), or (d) shall be punishable in the same manner as a completed violation of that subsection.

(f) Definition. As used in this section, the term “illicit sexual conduct” means (1) a sexual act (as defined in section 2246 [18 USCS § 2246]) with a person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of chapter 109A [18 USCS §§ 2241 et seq.] if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States; or (2) any commercial sex act (as defined in section 1591 [18 USCS § 1591]) with a person under 18 years of age.

(g) Defense. In a prosecution under this section based on illicit sexual conduct as defined in subsection (f)(2), it is a defense, which the defendant must establish by a preponderance of the evidence, that the defendant reasonably believed that the person with whom the defendant engaged in the commercial sex act had attained the age of 18 years.


10 posted on 01/30/2011 5:10:47 PM PST by mewykwistmas ("Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river. ")
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To: MissouriConservative
It sets a pathway for the US government to prosecute other things you do in foreign countries.

Including making money.

11 posted on 01/30/2011 5:11:44 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: MissouriConservative

Have to agree with you. I can’t think of a lower type of rodent than a child predator, but I don’t want ICE paying Canadian citizens to follow me around Victoria, BC with a video camera to catch me smoking a Cuban cigar.


12 posted on 01/30/2011 5:11:48 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joyell

Agreed!


13 posted on 01/30/2011 5:13:22 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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14 posted on 01/30/2011 5:14:40 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: decimon
I'm all for the ultimate punishment for pedophiles, BUT...

Why exactly are US Immigration & Customs Enforcement agents protecting children in Cambodia and not protecting children in the U.S. from the foreign pedophiles running wild in the country they were hired to protect?

15 posted on 01/30/2011 5:15:39 PM PST by drpix
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To: Joyell

>>All pedophiles should get the death penalty. All of them<<

I was just going to post that, once convicted, they should be put down like the rabid dogs they are.

It isn’t like we are putting down a human being. These are sub-human monsters who should be put out of their and our misery.


16 posted on 01/30/2011 5:17:08 PM PST by freedumb2003 (The TOTUS-reader is a Judas Goat, leading the American sheeple to the slaugherhouse /Parmy)
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To: pnh102
I would imagine it would be more likely for these perverts to be put to death in Cambodia than here.

Or to wish they had been. But, according to the article, a bribe may set you free.

17 posted on 01/30/2011 5:19:44 PM PST by decimon
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To: drpix
Why exactly are US Immigration & Customs Enforcement agents protecting children in Cambodia and not protecting children in the U.S. from the foreign pedophiles running wild in the country they were hired to protect?

Indeed. We frequently hear of children here being raped by illegals. ICE is wasting our time and money enforcing other countries' laws while letting illegals roam free here at home.

18 posted on 01/30/2011 5:20:32 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: johniegrad

The perpetrators are American citizens, and the local judiciary is easily corrupted....


19 posted on 01/30/2011 5:24:31 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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20 posted on 01/30/2011 5:27:02 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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