Barbarism at it's finest
Posted on 01/30/2011 4:19:56 AM PST by Scanian
When I received word of the fatal car bomb attack on Coptic worshipers leaving the Saints Coptic Church in Alexandria after this year's New Year's mass, I recalled my earliest memories of the first of these brutal, senseless, and unprovoked attacks against the Coptic people in my homeland of Egypt. Eighty-three Christians were massacred in El-Zawia El Hamra, Cairo in 1980 by Muslim believers committing an act of jihad similar to this current episode and similar to what we now face in other parts of the world today. We took our persecution for granted, and I wondered then where my country was heading.
Egypt is no longer a civilized country when Egyptian Copts are vulnerable to barbaric attacks and treated at best like strangers and more often like enemies in their own land. As a native Egyptian Copt growing up in Cairo in the 1950s and '60s I was mindful of our separate and diminished role. We lived as immigrants, without full rights, within our own land. The discrimination was real, and I had little hope for my future. Never mind that my beloved country was once the cradle of civilization and that my roots extended deep into the stories of the Pharaohs.
Growing up in Egypt as a Copt, I witnessed the growing presence of Islam in our streets and in our government day-by-day, and I sensed the decline of a civilized country. As Western values sought to take root and usher in a new modernity, the predominant Arab-Muslim influence was taking the culture backwards toward more primitive notions. What happened to this great center of civilization is represented today in the horrific and inhumane treatment of the Copts. This theocratic state lashes out against those who live outside the chosen religion within Egypt and prepares Egyptian Muslims
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The objective in the 1970s and 1980s was simply stability. Everyone had the belief that Egypt would benefit in terms of economics. Well...that’s what they achieved...for close to forty years. If you look at the tourist economy....it’s booming and bringing in all kinds of foreign currency.
At the end of the line...the little guy...he’s standing there and barely seeing any of this “boom-period”. Toss in the religious fanatics who’ve been told for forty years to just keep things in check...and you’ve a hostile group who want massive change. Whatever Iran went through in the late 1970s....I will predict the same for Egypt. Their tourism magnet is about to go bust.
The US should not be in the business of propping up dictators, tyrants, despots who deny their own citizens of the basic human rights, freedoms and liberties; who rob their citizens blind and reap and keep the billions in foreign aid meant to their peoples for themselves; who live in luxury while their populations starve and live in despair and utter poverty eithout any hope or opportunity to rise out of it.
Muslims in America receive justice in our courts and freedom to worship, but Copts have no hope for either in Egypt...Copts cannot be blamed for seeing the hypocrisy in Muslims requesting special religious privileges in America while Copts in Egypt continue to be forced to worship in fear under Islam.
“Muslims in America receive justice in our courts and freedom to worship, but Copts have no hope for either in Egypt...Copts cannot be blamed for seeing the hypocrisy in Muslims requesting special religious privileges in America while Copts in Egypt continue to be forced to worship in fear under Islam.”
Agree about taking heed here in the U.S. and taking heed of history. The Copts were the majority religion in Egypt up to the 4th & 5th centuries after which began the Muslim invasion and the thereby the demise of Christianity in Egypt. Now, Christianity represents only about 10% of the population and is being heavily persecuted and discriminated by Muslims. They (Christians)will virtually disappear if the country goes over to the Muslim Brotherhood, which to me it appears that it will...
“The US should not be in the business of propping up dictators, tyrants, despots who deny their own citizens of the basic human rights, freedoms and liberties; who rob their citizens blind “
Are you kidding? That’s obamas dream job? And he’s working at it very hard.
Lot of Copts in this part of NJ - worked with several of
them. Real nice people - told me of the discrimination
and abuse suffered as Christians
We are witnessing the root causes of militancy and jihad.
The protestors are 95% male and possibly not very religious in most cases, though they are surely 99% nominal muzzies.
They have no opportunity, no means of “democratic” political expression, a typically corrupt and autocratic Arab “strongman” regime bossing them around and denying them any future. That type of kid is a perfect target for Muslim Brotherhood recruiters. They will offer them an ideology which desires a kind of social change in their country, maybe some fame for jihadists, and a special place in Paradise if they are martyred. IOW, they will give them the chance do do what muzzie youth has always done-—lay it on the line for Allah through jihad. And in Arab countries “jihad” means violent action and NOT any kind of contemplative self-criticism or any such liberal claptrap.
They should stop involving themselves in the Muslim third world in EVERY RESPECT.
As Kipling said, “never the twain shall meet.” They hate us for the way we live and the way we believe (or maybe DON’T believe). Their prophet tells them in their scriptures to kill Jews and Christians wherever and however they can. Those who go to Friday “prayers” hear a constant drumbeat from clerics of “Kill the ‘kaffirs.’ Destroy Israel. Death to America.”
The “sophisticated” upper classes might find the West relatable to a point but the punks of the “Arab street” which, as we are seeing, exert enormous influence in those societies simply through mob violence, want nothing to do with Western ways. They can tell reporters they like he USA but that is completely superficial.
We should develop every type of energy at our disposal domestically so we can tell the barbarous oil countries to go fly a kite.
Let them be China’s problem. Or Russia’s. We really don’t need them if we rely on the free market for energy exploration, innovation, and production.
And Obama can take his “green” energy and industrial ideas and stick them where the sun don’t shine.
The British put an end to the dhimmi poll tax (jizya)which was extremely humiliating for the poor kaffir but it at least kept him and his family safe. It was pure extorsion in addition to humiliation but it functioned sort of a very expensive insurance policy to keep jihadi “hands off.”
Now the Christians aren’t even able to rely on protection money to save them from the “mob.” A very real mob, in this case-—a mob of fire breathing jihadist scum.
Longer than that. Islam was only dreamed up in the 7th century, so Egypt and the other ME countries were Christian (with an admixture of pagans, such as Zoroastrians) for many centuries.
The foundations of modern monasticism, in fact, were in Egypt, when Christian hermits began to live in loosely organized communities out in the desert. This way of life was codified by St Augustine (who was Algerian) in the Rule of St Augustine in the 4th century. The rule was the basis for the various Augustinian orders, which rapidly spread to Europe, particularly places like Spain, which already had many Christian hermits dwelling in the wilderness in loosely organized groups, where the individuals lived separately in their caves but gathered for certain prayers. The Spanish hermit communities were directly influenced by early Egyptian monasticism and it is thought possible that some of the communities were even founded by Egyptians.
John 9:4 “The night is coming in which no man can work”.
Darfur, Myanmar, Cambodia, Lebanon, Iran, Greece, England, Venezuela, Egypt, U.S.A. - here it comes again!
When you turn out the light (that’s Jesus Christ) it gets very dark.
That describes just about every government in the Middle East.
Islam ruins everything it touches.
Barbarism at it's finest
ERROR: That should be 7th century. Although Muhammad was born in the late 6th century (570 AD), the Islamic religion did not begin until the early 7th century. The first verses of the Quran are dated from about 610 AD. The conquest of Egypt occurred about thirty years later.
I think the root cause of militancy and jihad is Islam, not dictatorship per se. ALL Middle Eastern governments are dictatorships of one kind or another, simply because the nature of Islam makes it inevitable: they are either Islamic dictatorships where sharia is enforced, or nominally Islamic but more or less secular dictatorships where constant repression is necessary to keep the Islamic true believers from taking over and making it an Islamic dictatorship.
Islam is a political system that demands total control of a society, and either installs its own dictatorship or must be kept in check by a dictatorship. IMHO, the important thing is not to let it get established here in the US or we'll be facing the same problem.
This is a very timely warning, Ashraf, because a similar thing is happening in the United States.
Our ruler has the media and the Washington establishment on his side and is fooling enough people to consolidate the power of the Socialists and Muslims over us and our former freedoms.
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