Posted on 01/29/2011 9:42:59 AM PST by SteveH
Abercrombie asked nominee to withdraw
Doctor says he doesn’t know the reason for request
January 29, 2011
HONOLULU (AP) - Gov. Neil Abercrombie's office said he asked Dr. Neal Palafox to withdraw his nomination to lead the state Department of Health, contradicting his administration's previous claim that Palafox withdrew himself.
Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz confirmed it was the governor and not Palafox who asked for the withdrawal.
Dela Cruz declined to discuss the reason for Palafox's abrupt departure, and Palafox has said he doesn't know what led to his Wednesday dismissal after a month as interim Health Department director.
(Excerpt) Read more at mauinews.com ...
Couldn’t be because he questioned the newly placed post-it notes, huh? Or maybe he couldn’t learn the Mmmmm mmmm Praise Obama song fast enough. Just more proof there’s something fishy in the state of Hawaii.
I think I’ve tried to contact her US Attorney office and the only way to do it is through snail-mail. I think I called there and they wouldn’t give any e-mail address. It’s been a long time ago though so I might be remembering wrong.
At what point will somebody in Hawaii realize that the state is getting a black eye from all this corruption, and actually do something to stop the bleeding? I feel sorry for the good people of Hawaii who are powerless to stop this stuff. Actually, I feel sorry for anybody who lives in a place where they feel powerless to stop the bad stuff, and that’s probably just about everywhere.
I’ll have to put “Absence of Malice” on our Netflix queue. That was our family’s Christmas gift to itself - a Netflix subscription. We’ve gone down the queue list far enough that we’re almost to one that I requested. lol. I can watch while I work at my job. It’s a big work-week again this week after 3 weeks of very light work so I’ll be watching “Despicable Me” with my 11-year-old daughter this afternoon - my arms flying the whole time. lol
The plot thickens...there is enough suspicious activity to open a criminal investigation concerning Obama’s birth records and statements made about them by various Hawaiian officials.
I can see why they haven't what with Joe the Plumber and the church guys, however that house of cards is getting shakier every day. Someone better do some serious cya and fess up before they get caught in the collapse.
>Someone better do some serious cya and fess up before they get caught in the collapse.<
that being said, they need to remember that Rope is reusable and there will be plenty of time to use them once this gets sorted.
No use in covering up anymore. It is falling apart. They better start thinking about doing the right thing now before it is too late.
I never bought the “out with the old and in with the new” theory of why Abie fired so many health dept. heads moments after being sworn in. They were already on board and had lied (or played loose with their direct quotes) about the BC, so why dump them for new blood? I also don’t buy that it was a coincidence that Senior’s BFF suddenly rose to head honcho and keeper of the records at this particular time in history.
Hart says the timing of the investigation is somewhat suspicious. "
Sure, but politicians lie all the time, it is part of the job description. I don't see any legal traction in Abercrombie's public personal recollections. Also he can always weasel out if he is ever cornered by claiming his recollection was faulty.
In Dec when he came out swinging at “birthers” the article said he was mad about potential state eligibility bills and said that Bill Posey et al should have just asked HIM where Obama was born, rather than requiring official documentation.
That is just more idle political dissembling. Again there is no legal traction that I can see (IANAL).
Obama’s alleged letter to Kapiolani was “read” by Abercrombie on video and was not what actually ended up on the letter. Either he was ad-libbing from the get-go, can’t read, or the letter was his brainstorm and Obama signed the paper for him or else he forged Obama’s signature.
I doubt he made it up himself since WND published photos of the hardcopy that Kapiolani Hospital received from Abercrombie. Abercrombie's contemporaneous, prior, and subsequent actions together indicate that he believes he was telling the truth about Soetero aka Obama's birth and the validity of his birth certificate records, up until a few days ago when he suddenly clammed up.
(Aside) Do hospitals keep copies of actual birth certificates? If so, do they keep them longer than they keep medical records?
My understanding is yes, for legal reasons, in case of a lawsuit by parents for (for example) cases involving mistaken baby identities. (Again, however, IANAL.)
In any event, Abercrombie’s discrepancies and missteps are highly suspicious - including lying about seeing BHO and SAD with the baby at social events, his office lying about Palafox not being asked to resign, and his friend suddenly lying to change the story that Abercrombie told him he had gone into the hospitals with a search warrant and hadn’t found a BC. Those discrepancies and lies should land an investigation.
Again, politicians can make any kind of statements they want to the press or public. It is sworn affidavits filed in a court that are actionable in the face of evidence of perjury. I am not aware of Abercrombie making any such sworn statements. He did make a speech to Kapiolani Hospital in January 2009, and Kapiolani Hospital chose to include the statement in their non-profit fundraising, but the two events seem legally independent and not overt evidence of fraudulent fundraising to me or conspiracy to defraud Hospital non-profit fund contributors (IANAL).
One thing to watch is the Honolulu Star Advertiser. The fact that they did not publish the AP story indicates to me that the Honolulu Star Advertiser management may be a major complicit player in a manner favorable to the Soetero aka Obama camp and to the HDP. Honolulu is a relatively small city, and most of those who work there presumably have to go along to get along. Major screw-ups may happen in the HDOH, and we might never hear about it even though it might be reported to the local news media. With the local news media complicity to help enforce selective political news blackouts, and a corrupt AG and governor, Honolulu is ripe for invasion by Chicago style politics and Chicago style thuggery IMO. This guy Palafox seems to me fortunate to have kept his kneecaps throughout this entire most excellent adventure.
Which in itself a hoot: the Star-Advertiser articles are usually 95% AP reprints, along with the gaudy headlines. The other 5% are usually NYT or WaPo. Their only in-house writers cover HS football and such.
All they do is recycle the liberal crap others actually write. If it does not fit, it does not get published.
This just PROVES the he resigned over the Obama birth “records” controversy!
This just PROVES that he resigned over the Obama birth “records” controversy!
I can usually find these email addresses.
I’ll have to put “Absence of Malice” on our Netflix queue. That was our family’s Christmas gift to itself - a Netflix subscription. We’ve gone down the queue list far enough that we’re almost to one that I requested. lol. I can watch while I work at my job.
It's a pretty good movie. Tell me what you think after you watch it, and how the movie resembles and coincides what you see happening today.
Neil Abercrombie...... What a crazy ol hippie.
Alas, I respectfully defer to making that conclusion.
For example, the HDOH website contains two documents which detail how Palafox intended to attend some town hall meetings and that his office released some information about the health impact of storm runoff from a local landfill. So in theory it could have something to do with this (or even bad billing records).
... But just not very likely. We need more information, but the best we are getting from the local press are unsourced allegations of wrongdoing. Another dog not barking is that Palafox's lawyer has yet to mention any subpoenas associated with the investigation being received, or notice that they would be received. Usually that is one of the first things to happen in an investigation which is publicized (not anonymous whispers from the state AG's staff to local papers). Once someone has been given official notice that he or she is being investigated, and that any related documents should be saved instead of shredded, then that person is legally obligated to save any such documents for discovery. So far, it seems Palafox is free to shred anything he likes that he is not ordinarily legally obligated to keep by existing regulations, and that in turn IMHO puts a pall on the notion that the investigation and anonymous allegations are anything more substantive than your everyday garden variety political sham. IANAL.
Just when you thought they couldn't surpass the unparalleled buffoonery of Sheila Jackson-Lee, or Joe Manchin, or Alan Grayson, they find a new candidate for Doofus of the Year.
The Honolulu Advertiser has DEFINITELY been complicit in covering for Obama. There’s good evidence that somebody at the Advertiser office actually created the paper forgeries of the birth announcements (both Advertiser and Star-Bulletin images) and gave a paper photocopy of the Advertiser forgery to the Hawaii State Library with instructions for the librarian to send it out if anybody asked for a copy from the HSL’s microfilm.
And evidence that they then posed as “Koa” at Texas DArlin’ Blog and a poster at the Prius Chat Forum - both of which claimed to independently get from the library microfilm directly the image that made it online, but all of which are identical to the copy that Will Hoover at the Advertiser gave to Mike Rivero at whatreallyhappened.com. (All 3 of those images have a large “scratch” that isn’t on the microfilm at the Hawaii State Library now.)
When I get a chance I intend to post the evidence that supports this claim.
But yeah, the media is definitely complicit in this whole thing. The Honolulu Advertiser office had the microfilms and microfiche for both the Advertiser and Star-Bulletin so they had all they needed to make both pristine and well-worn forgeries. There is no way that the Advertiser microfilm at the Hawaii State Library was pristine like the images brought forward by Infidel Granny and Lori Starfelt. If they got those images from the HSL librarian it could only have been because somebody at the Advertiser gave the librarian a paper copy that she was supposed to tell everybody was from their microfilm.
But if he can’t produce the document, Obama can’t run in all the states now.
Wondering if you caught a comment coming out of the Gov’s office, via the AG. When I read it my mouth dropped. Wondering what you think of it or if you caught it.
The AG says because of privacy laws what’s written in the archives can’t be released (same song and dance) but now with a added twist. “The Governor can’t do anything about it and EITHER can the president”. He finishes it up lamenting how conspiracy nuts will continue to question Da Won....
Aside from the ridiculous notion that the Gov can’t sign a release for the records for the good of the people or because they are public record or just because he’s the governor is flat out wrong. The AG’s office knows this as does the Gov.
But now they’ve added a new dance step after years years of claiming only Obama can release them - now even he’s not able to do so??? WTF?
Are we to believe Hawaii has a law specific to Barack H. Obama Jr, POTUS, that prevents him and only him from requesting his own documentation on his own birth?
The only plausible scenario where that could happen is in the case of adoption and the records are sealed. Even then, they can be released by the signature of a Judge (for whatever conditions Hawaii has for releasing records).
According to law.adoption.com adults can access their adoption records, including original identifying information by making a request to the courts. Even if he was adopted his records can be unsealed and as POTUS I’d say his request alone would expedite that release under any circumstances.
http://laws.adoption.com/statutes/hawaii-laws.html
Who May Access Information
Citation: Rev. Stat. §§ 578-14.5; 578-15
Health information may be provided to:
The adult adoptee
The adoptive parent
The minor adoptee’s guardian or custodian
Adoption records may be accessed by:
The adult adoptee
The adoptive parents
The birth parents
Access to Nonidentifying Information
Citation: Rev. Stat. §§ 578-14.5; 578-15
The Department of Health shall prepare a standard medical information form to obtain medical information on the birth parents of the minor adoptee. This form shall include a request for any information about the adopted child’s potential genetic or other inheritable diseases, including similar medical histories, if known, of the parents of the birth parents. All child-placing organizations shall make reasonable efforts to complete this form on both birth parents, to obtain from the natural parents written consent to the release of this information to or for the benefit of the adopted child, and whenever possible, to obtain from the natural mother a signed release to receive a copy of all of her medical records relating to the birth of the adopted child that are in the possession of the hospital or other facility at which the child was born. The completed forms shall be included in the department’s adoption records.
Upon written application from the adult adoptee, or the adoptive parent, guardian, or custodian on behalf of a minor adoptee, the Department of Health shall furnish the applicant with a copy of the completed forms. The department is authorized to disclose the information without prior court approval.
Information concerning the ethnic background and necessary medical information may be released regardless of the presence of a confidentiality affidavit.
Mutual Access to Identifying Information
Citation: Rev. Stat. § 578-15
An adoptee who is age 18 or older may submit a written request to the family court for inspection of adoption records. Such records will be released unless the birth parents have filed a confidentiality affidavit. Such affidavits may be renewed every 10 years.
The adoptee may submit an affidavit person consenting to the inspection of records by the birth parents.
Access to Original Birth Certificate
Citation: Rev. Stat. §§ 578-14; 578-15; 338-20
If a new birth certificate is issued, the original birth certificate shall be sealed. The sealed document may be opened by the department only by an order of a court or when requested in accordance with § 578-15.
The birth parent may be provided a copy of the original birth certificate upon request.
Where the Information Can Be Located
Family Court Central Registry
Contact:
Family Court Registry
Court Management Services
777 Punchbowl Street
Honolulu, HI 96811
Obtaining an Original Birth Certificate:
An adoptee must petition the court in which the adoption was finalized.
Next post on the adoption theory though.
Let’s assume for a minute that Obama is really adopted and that is what he’s been trying to hide.
Being adopted does not disqualify a person from becoming President. Clinton was adopted by his step-father, Ford was an infant adoption.
Occam’s Razor -
Embarrassed by their daughters teenage pregnancy, to a mix race child, Stanley’s parents decide to adopt the baby, until she is finished with her schooling and can take control/custody. A common occurring even in families today. If this is the case, it helps Obama.
As soon as he was adopted he becomes under the law the same as any biological child of any other parents. His adoption by two Americans, native born citizens in fact (as far as we know) would provide Obama with NBC status. On top of that, it gives him a sob story.
His poor teenage mother, had to finish her education and his Grandparents did what they felt was right. As soon as Stanley could she came and got her son...blah blah blah...tears all around. Problem solved.
If it’s a Step-Parent adoption like Clinton’s. So LoLo adopted him, another common situation. He has problems in showing where he changed his name back (if he ever did) or regained his US passport but most Americans won’t worry about such trivial things.
His mother wanted him to have the father he never had, Obama himself refused to leave behind his (get out the kleenex) American Roots, reverting back to his birth name...blah blah. The “birthers” are left with trying to force the courts hands to put into law what NBC is (although, it’s pretty clear already and why they Framers didn’t have to “spell” it out). Public opinion falls back on Obama’s side - the poor guy, having to justify an adoption that he had no control over and on and on...
Those are the only two plausible scenario’s unless we start getting into the “whose the daddy” theories.
Either one, a simple request to the courts springs the lock to any sealed records. I know this from personal experience.
I had my sealed adoption records unlocked by the State of Virginia (a closed records state) by simply asking a judge. And I’m not even President of the United States.
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