Posted on 01/28/2011 11:36:22 AM PST by ncfool
Bill introduced to the Missouri House on January 24, 2011 dealing with the issue of Proof of United States Citizenship.
Summary of the Introduced Bill
HB 283 -- Declarations of Candidacy
Sponsor: Rowland
This bill requires each established political party to provide the Missouri Secretary of State with proof of the identity and proof of United States citizenship for each nominee for President and Vice President of the United States. The proof must be submitted with the other certification documents that are required to be filed with the Secretary of State pursuant to Chapter 115, RSMo.
Missouri House of Representatives 96th General Assembly , 1st Regular Session Activity History for HB 283
Date Jrn Pg Activity Description
1/20/2011 H 203 Introduced and Read First Time (H)
1/24/2011 H 208 Read Second Time (H)
INTRODUCED BY REPRESENTATIVES ROWLAND (Sponsor), KELLEY (126), COX, LOEHNER, ELMER, HINSON, PHILLIPS, KOENIG, RIDDLE, SHUMAKE, WELLS, POLLOCK, SCHOELLER, SMITH (150), FRANKLIN, FISHER AND LEACH (Co-sponsors) .
82R302 JRJ-D By: Berman H.B. No. 295 A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT relating to certification for placement on the ballot of candidates for president or vice-president of the United States. BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS: SECTION 1. Section 192.033, Election Code, is amended by amending Subsection (a) and adding Subsection (d) to read as follows: (a) Except as provided by Subsection (c) or (d), the secretary of state shall certify in writing for placement on the general election ballot the names of the candidates for president and vice-president who are entitled to have their names placed on the ballot. (d) The secretary of state may not certify the name of a candidate for president or vice-president unless the candidate has presented the candidate's original birth certificate indicating that the person is a natural-born United States citizen. SECTION 2. This Act takes effect September 1, 2011.
Well, that and his subsequent status after being adopted in Indonesia.
Well, that and his subsequent status after being adopted in Indonesia.
I see two issues here. Besides citizenship versus natural born citizenship, the requirement should be more than just presenting the document(s) to the state’s SOS. The legislation should go one step further, and require the SOS to publish in some form or manner these documents as well.
It better spell out "Long Form Birth Certificate with signature of the attending physician and location of delivery" or it's worse than a waste of time. It'll be a deliberate attempt to defraud .
It would also allow anchor babies to run for president.
You would be correct.
It’s tricky. What about home births?
A Birth Certificate doesn't indicate the citizenship of the parents. Other documents showing the citizenship of the parents, at the time of the birth, would also have to be submitted to prove NATURAL BORN CITIZEN status.
sfl
We need to pass legislation that requires the candidate to request the State of birth send proof of birth within that State directly to the SO-State to be put on the ballot of the State.
The form Hawaii says they issue for proof of birth within the State of Hawaii is the short form.
Why would the Hawaii DOH issuing the short form directly to the SO-State of the balloting State not be sufficient?
Better to swing for the fences and get a unconstitutional strike out? Or to hit the easy ball right over the plate and score a base hit towards our goal of ensuring that candidates are actually eligible?
“The laws basically just have to codify a particular definition of NBC and then let SCOTUS rule whether that definition is Constitutional. Thats the only way were going to get a definition of NBC.”
You are exactly correct in my opinion. Some State must “define” NBC in their law. This will get a definitive ruling from the SCOTUS.
It shouldn't be a problem in Hawaii. By law, any part of any certificate must be made available to a legal requester. The DOH can't arbitrarily decide not to give out a long form because they don't want to.
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Missouri HB 283
Requires proof of identity and proof of United States citizenship to be filed with declarations of candidacy and certifications of nomination for the office of President and Vice President
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Thanks for the ping, Joe. Two of the co-sponsors are from my area.
We definitely need a law that clearly states that the citizens have standing in a court of law when a Presidential or Vice Presidential Candidate claims “Natural Born” citizenship status when in fact he/she is not a natural born citizen. Obama has clearly been able to plead the fifth in covering up his birth records. I know his birth records do not prove his citizenship but they do list his parents, one of which is said to be a Kenyan if you are to believe his autobiography.
Such written request shall include proof of identity and proof of United States citizenship for each candidate
I agree, was going to say the same thing.
There’s nothing in this bill that specifies the precise documentation that’s required. So they could get any corrupt democrat to sign off on a scrap of postit note and they’d call it golden.
Why?
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