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Hawaii lawmakers want release of Obama birth info
Associated Press ^ | Jan. 27, 2011 | MARK NIESSE

Posted on 01/27/2011 1:51:35 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

HONOLULU (AP) -- Five Hawaii Democratic representatives want to pass a law making President Barack Obama's birth records public and charge $100 to see them.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abercrombie; barry; bc; birthcertificate; birthers; czarhussien; eligibility; hawaii; hawii; kenyanvillageidiot; naturalborncitizen; obama; postotus; soetoro; ultimateconartist
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To: erlayman

A home birth would still be reported on a long-form BC, but if what the HDOH said to Lori Starfelt is correct, it would be completed by a doctor when the baby was examined by the doctor within the first 30 days after birth.

If you look at the CDC’s 1961 Natality Report there are very few births listed as “unattended” - probably because those are cases where somebody DIDN’T have the baby seen by a doctor. I wonder how many of those who never bothered to have a doctor complete the BC were either abandoned babies or the birth was unattended and the child died shortly after birth.

My sister has had 5 of her 7 children born at home under the care of a midwife and I believe she had a doctor complete the birth certificates each time because Nebraska at the time did not allow planned home births and the midwife could have gotten in trouble for signing the BC’s.

A long-form would also be used if somebody reported a birth to a local registrar. But again, the child would need to be seen by a doctor to complete the BC. If the HDOH was accurate to Lori Starfelt.

The only other birth certificate forms they have are

1) the delayed birth certificate, which is used if the birth was reported after the first 3 months but before a year (at least I think that was what was in effect at the time; they’ve had 3 different sets of terminology since they became a state). It is a different form altogether and at the time it would not have been considered prima facie evidence; and

2) the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth (COHB), which was used for people who hadn’t registered their birth in the first year. It required certain forms of evidence and the lieutenant governor had to review the evidence and sign the COHB saying there was enough evidence to prove a Hawaii birth. It included a photo of the registrant and a description of permanent physical features. It is also a totally different form that is created by the Lt Gov.

So a long-form is the only option for what Obama could have, unless his birth was registered 3 or more months after birth.

That’s how I understand it anyway, based on the HDOH Rules.


161 posted on 01/27/2011 4:22:05 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: little jeremiah; darkwing104; Lazmataz

It’s true, I don’t make many posts, and sometimes I disagree! My opinions aren’t to little jeremiah’s liking! Please help him here on his “troll” quest!


162 posted on 01/27/2011 4:22:39 PM PST by heysean
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To: null and void

lol. Maybe I should have been treating him with more respect. Only thing is I don’t know if I have any more respect to treat him with. lol.


163 posted on 01/27/2011 4:24:43 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Free ThinkerNY; jamese777

Sounds great! I’ve got a C-note ready to go.

Hey, jamese777: does this sound okay to you? Aren’t you excited to see such a pragmatic solution to this problem?

/s


164 posted on 01/27/2011 4:25:08 PM PST by dinodino
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To: Red Steel

That’s ‘cause we EXPECT great things from you. =)

Wanna know the sign that cracks me up every time I see it? When I see the road sign that says “Men Working”. Why is it so bizarre to see a man working that we have to have a road sign for it? lol


165 posted on 01/27/2011 4:27:08 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Red Steel

I’ve been saying it too.

GMTA etc!


166 posted on 01/27/2011 4:32:00 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: mapmaker77; flat; unkus; JLAGRAYFOX; freekitty; jesseam; 70th Division; libertyhoundusnr; tgusa; ...

How about lie detector tests for the entire Hawaiian state government and the Regime in DC (including Soros and Pelosi and Reid) relative to Zero’s birth location and birth certificate??? As a Freeper said, the forgery must be hot off the presses and the best Millions can buy.


167 posted on 01/27/2011 4:32:57 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
If the Dems want to make us look stupid they will pass this law.

They are not going to pass this law.

Why?

168 posted on 01/27/2011 4:44:06 PM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: Ann Archy
They need to look for Barry DUNHAM

It has been tried, it's not there either.

169 posted on 01/27/2011 4:52:55 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Tribune7
If the Dems want to make us look stupid they will pass this law. They are not going to pass this law. Why?

Because it would end the eligibility issue, essentially taking away one of the tools that the left uses to laugh at us all.
170 posted on 01/27/2011 4:53:12 PM PST by heysean
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To: F15Eagle

Obama still has a uncle living on his mothers side.


171 posted on 01/27/2011 4:57:11 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
How about lie detector tests for the entire Hawaiian state government and the Regime in DC (including Soros and Pelosi and Reid) relative to Zero’s birth location and birth certificate???

As long as the person conducting the lie detector test was someone we knew had no connection to the above regime. Trusting anyone with anything to do with them would be next to impossible (elections, sudden changes in statements made, etc.) How about adding the corrupt media to your list?

172 posted on 01/27/2011 4:58:07 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: heysean

Us all? Don’t lump your troll self in with the rest of us.


173 posted on 01/27/2011 5:11:04 PM PST by Lachisula
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To: RobRoy

“I think Mike Evans claim, even though recanted,”

He did not actually recant. He changed the source only. From the ‘Governor’ to ‘Governor’s office’.


174 posted on 01/27/2011 5:26:07 PM PST by wistful
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To: heysean

“essentially taking away one of the tools that the left uses to laugh at us all.”

You guys make these kind of claims all the time without a shred of evidence. Show me one Dem who is “laughing at us all”. Please.


175 posted on 01/27/2011 5:29:03 PM PST by wistful
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To: Lachisula

I get it, disagree = troll, it’s been that way forever here. This place has lost a lot of really good people that way over the years, and I guess I’m the flavor of the day. I’m used to just reading anyway, so if I get the zot for my opinions, then so be it. I’m glad I spoke up for a minute on this issue, and for the record, I still don’t get why my view on it is so hard for people to understand. Take care, and God bless you all.


176 posted on 01/27/2011 5:30:56 PM PST by heysean
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To: maine-iac7
trip to Pakistan when Americans weren't free to travel there etc-

This is a long debunked internet myth. Repeating such myths doesn't help anyone's credibility.

177 posted on 01/27/2011 5:41:01 PM PST by sometime lurker
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To: FormerACLUmember

I liked that guy’s Happy Trees!


178 posted on 01/27/2011 5:41:11 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: heysean; Lachisula

You’re a POS liar. Your signup date is two years old and two days ago you had fewer than 1 1/2 pp of comments, all larded with leftist crap.

You are not fooling anyone.

Troll.


179 posted on 01/27/2011 5:45:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: sometime lurker; maine-iac7

It was hard for people Americans to go to Pakistan, not impossible. But it was not easy at all.

Of course, if 0h0m0 had an Indonesian passport - a nice Moslem country - he would have had no trouble at all going there with his Muzzie pals.


180 posted on 01/27/2011 5:47:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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