Posted on 01/25/2011 9:52:07 PM PST by Libloather
He must haven been scared.
Yes, that’s right, and I am. Salts and citrics.
My combined postings asking the true believers to show some evidence that Obummer is not American born is paranoid and mentally defective? That seems, to me, to be lacking in “People Skills”. Wouldn’t it be easier to shut me down with facts instead of personal attacks? Of course not buying into this on the evidence presented so far is obviously just my dull nature.
Once again, I will ask. If this concept on Obummers eligibility for President is so strong, why is this not being moved with urgency in the courts? There isn’t even a consensus with the issue here on FR.
Clue: those are not the reasons for my comments on your post.
Ah yes, the “troll” card - have fun with your game, children :)
It invalidates the following part of his accusation:
“The fact that the same typo remains on this second version is an indication that it was not independently published but rather amended, suddenly. The fact that there was a typo, at all, in both versions indicates haste on the part of the DNC.”
Since the typo has been there since at least 2000, there was no “sudden” amendment and certainly no “haste.”
So it does not invalidate any of the essential elements of his analysis. I am sure Pen will get right back to you BT, as if he does not have anything more important to do.
Sure it does. There was no conspiracy to suddenly and hastily produce a certificate of nomination when the text has been consistent since at least 2000. You just won't admit it.
You got me. I have read through my posts on this topic and find my comments defending my thoughts to be within bounds of taste. I am not the only one on that thread that has the same reasoning.
If the comparison to the Truthers and Birthers personally offends, that was not my intent. The parallels of both groups though are reaching the same point. I was on board with the Birthers in the beginning, but as time goes on, the promises made for hard proof have not been met. In my mind, the Birther movement is heading down the same road to irrelevancy and as a laughing stock as the Truthers.
The people on the ground working this case need to step it up or drop it and move on to more fertile ground i.e; Obummers other document problems. Primary Schooling, College and Community Organizer records. When he is out of office in two years all this will be a Lib talking point to the insanity of the right otherwise.
Sure it does. There was no conspiracy to suddenly and hastily produce a certificate of nomination when the text has been consistent since at least 2000. You just won’t admit it.
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Because you say there was no haste there was no conspiracy? That’s your argument? What’s the purpose of the CON Nancy Pelosi signed?
Where did Kevin Cronin come from prior to his involvement as CEO in Hawaii?
From another state, Wisconsin.
Where is he now?
Resigned from his position in Hawaii in 2009.
Is Cronin an Obama plant?
Team Obama would have studied the state’s election laws and ascertained because of a quirk in Hawaii that the ultimate decision of whether a candidate gets placed on the ballot, despite the DPH’s lack of certification, would come down to the decision of one person = the CEO. Therefore it would be advantageous to have someone in place who would be “sympathetic” to the candidate’s position.
I think you have to do better than NO HASTE = NO CONSPIRACY.
This was YEARS in the making. And just like Watergate in a matter of a couple of years a former AG and a President were brought down.
Where exactly have these laws been passed? It takes only one state to make this effective as a tool against Obummer. Yet no state has this law on the books. Are they waiting till after '12 to institute them?
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Dude...really? Clearly, you didn't read what I wrote, nor paid any attention to you yourself quoting what I wrote. Have another look at the bold type. Um, where in there did I claim the laws have already passed?
Furthermore, there are countless American's who have awoken to the history of the founding era...myself included. That in itself is a major victory for the Constitution and Conservatism!
If that is true, this country is in a sad state. The founding documents are a quick read and even easier to understand. To wait till a full blown Marxist ascends to the Presidency to check into the owners manual of the country is sad. What would have happened if McLame won. Would everyone still be asleep behind the wheel as his brand of Progressivism ruined the country?
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Of course it's a sad state that it took Barry usurping the office of the President, and subsequently Pelosi and Reid severely overstepping their Constitutional authority...that is precisely why I stated what I did. It is indeed a victory for the Constitution and Conservatism that large numbers of people have awoken. Therefore, reading/rereading the founding documents and the writings of the time is clearly a POSITIVE outcome of the research and learning that has occurred regarding Barry's eligibility question.
"The Alinsky tactics you displayed on this thread, have backfired on you and your buddies.
Alinsky tactics is rich. We are not doing anything here but asking for proof of which you obviously find dear to you. Three years of investigation should have unearthed something more than what we have now. That plus the fact the left seems insistent more than any group to fan the flames on this. Your radar should be way up on this. This IS a genuine Alinsky tactic. It is straight out of his book if you read it. Generate a conspiracy and marginalize the believers. It is also one of Obummers Czars Cass Sunstien's favorite concept. Would it be a suprise if the WH was pushing this to distract from other more important things like Obummers College records and any record prior to his being state Senator? They are really keeping that stuff under wraps and very quiet.
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LMAO. Your darn right it's rich! Going into this thread with the sole intention of spending your time telling people who are concerned about Barry's life narrative...and thus the Constitutional requirements for POTUS are (do I dare utter the harsh words)...BIRTHERS. I mean....is this junior high or something? What's up with the attempted name calling? Sheesh. LOL. This is such a waste of time, and sooooooooooo overly ridiculous a waste of time, that you show up to spend your time telling us this. Talk about Rich.
Barry's admin isn't pushing crap to distract people from what's going on. That theory may have worked prior to the 2010 mid terms...or the rise of the TEA parties. But, but...but...it could be a trap!
I said there was no conspiracy by the DNC to suddenly and hastily produce a certificate of nomination for Obama.
What’s the purpose of the CON Nancy Pelosi signed?
The same purpose there was in 2000 when Babara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein as co-chairwomen of the DNC certified to Hawaii (including the same typo) that Al Gore and Joe Lieberman were constitutionally eligible to hold the offices of President and Vice President.
“I think the whole issue is pretty counter productive and a distraction to the issues at hand.”
I don’t see how anyone here is concentrating ONLY on this issue at the exclusion of all the other ones (although the resolution of this particular issue could impact, even undo, most if not all the damage BHO’s done to this country up to that point).
But I believe all of us here can walk and chew gum at the same time.
“But I believe all of us here can walk and chew gum at the same time.”
Point taken.
I had a friend, a lawyer and a kind and good one. He was on Sixty Minutes once, he had a medical malpractice case they did a segment on. He represented some victims.
The most notorious event of this surgeon’s malpractice (iirc) was that he was doing a hysterectomy and cut through the uterus into a major artery, and then he panicked. He ran out of the operating room and disappeared. I can’t remember if the woman lived of died. Sure seems like she came close to, depending on how fast the others there were able to rescue her. I can’t remember even if he lost his license — I seem to recollect that he jumped to another jurisdiction, and had that as a practice of his career as he botched up in one state — move a few states over. Whatever. This is not the story that’s relevant here, but what happened to the good and honest lawyer, my friend and neighbor of long ago — that made him lose his law license — that is relevant.
That story is an application of Ronald Reagan’s advice: “Trust but Verify.” My friend trusted people, not a blind trust but a founded one. He trusted neighbors and clients of long standing, ones who had come to know more than just as a client, ones where he knew the family, the friends, the kind of people the person mixed with — a trust based on a history of acquaintance.
Well, he had a family who were clients and neighbors both. They asked him to represent their son in a real estate sale closing. The son and the son’s wife were selling their house. The lawyer arrived at the closing. The buyers, the agents, the parents and the son were all there. Where was the son’s wife? She’s on her way the parents and son assured him. Fifteen minutes later she still had not showed. Everyone was impatient — everybody wanted the deal to go through. But where was the daughter? Can’t we go on without her? The lawyer was reluctant. He hadn’t met the daughter in person, his trust was in the parents.
A phone call came in to the office. A woman asked for the son. The son answered and briefly spoke to the woman — everyone heard his side of the conversation. Her car had broken down. She was at a garage getting it repaired, but it would be two hours, at least. Could they please proceed? After all in this state, the husband can sign for the wife. No one wanted to wait. The lawyer was troubled, but he trusted the parents, and everyone had heard the phone call. Let’s get it done already!
You might guess the outcome. The son was separated from the wife, they were going to be divorced, but the son and the parents had cooked up a scheme so the son could get the house’s value into his own name, before the divorce. The call? A staged fake. The delay and waiting? A true con! Amazing what smart folks can cook up and get away with sometimes.
The lawyer lost his license. He trusted but did not verify.
How much more so must we verify the Natural Born Citizen status of the man who holds the most powerful office in the history of the world!
LOL - thanks.
But not as cute as that one. Might have similar - um, generative equipment, though.
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