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To: bvw

You got me. I have read through my posts on this topic and find my comments defending my thoughts to be within bounds of taste. I am not the only one on that thread that has the same reasoning.

If the comparison to the Truthers and Birthers personally offends, that was not my intent. The parallels of both groups though are reaching the same point. I was on board with the Birthers in the beginning, but as time goes on, the promises made for hard proof have not been met. In my mind, the Birther movement is heading down the same road to irrelevancy and as a laughing stock as the Truthers.

The people on the ground working this case need to step it up or drop it and move on to more fertile ground i.e; Obummers other document problems. Primary Schooling, College and Community Organizer records. When he is out of office in two years all this will be a Lib talking point to the insanity of the right otherwise.


129 posted on 01/26/2011 3:38:57 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I had a friend, a lawyer and a kind and good one. He was on Sixty Minutes once, he had a medical malpractice case they did a segment on. He represented some victims.

The most notorious event of this surgeon’s malpractice (iirc) was that he was doing a hysterectomy and cut through the uterus into a major artery, and then he panicked. He ran out of the operating room and disappeared. I can’t remember if the woman lived of died. Sure seems like she came close to, depending on how fast the others there were able to rescue her. I can’t remember even if he lost his license — I seem to recollect that he jumped to another jurisdiction, and had that as a practice of his career as he botched up in one state — move a few states over. Whatever. This is not the story that’s relevant here, but what happened to the good and honest lawyer, my friend and neighbor of long ago — that made him lose his law license — that is relevant.

That story is an application of Ronald Reagan’s advice: “Trust but Verify.” My friend trusted people, not a blind trust but a founded one. He trusted neighbors and clients of long standing, ones who had come to know more than just as a client, ones where he knew the family, the friends, the kind of people the person mixed with — a trust based on a history of acquaintance.

Well, he had a family who were clients and neighbors both. They asked him to represent their son in a real estate sale closing. The son and the son’s wife were selling their house. The lawyer arrived at the closing. The buyers, the agents, the parents and the son were all there. Where was the son’s wife? She’s on her way the parents and son assured him. Fifteen minutes later she still had not showed. Everyone was impatient — everybody wanted the deal to go through. But where was the daughter? Can’t we go on without her? The lawyer was reluctant. He hadn’t met the daughter in person, his trust was in the parents.

A phone call came in to the office. A woman asked for the son. The son answered and briefly spoke to the woman — everyone heard his side of the conversation. Her car had broken down. She was at a garage getting it repaired, but it would be two hours, at least. Could they please proceed? After all in this state, the husband can sign for the wife. No one wanted to wait. The lawyer was troubled, but he trusted the parents, and everyone had heard the phone call. Let’s get it done already!

You might guess the outcome. The son was separated from the wife, they were going to be divorced, but the son and the parents had cooked up a scheme so the son could get the house’s value into his own name, before the divorce. The call? A staged fake. The delay and waiting? A true con! Amazing what smart folks can cook up and get away with sometimes.

The lawyer lost his license. He trusted but did not verify.

How much more so must we verify the Natural Born Citizen status of the man who holds the most powerful office in the history of the world!


135 posted on 01/26/2011 4:35:30 PM PST by bvw
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