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Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Prison
New York Times ^ | January22, 2011 | Don Terry

Posted on 01/24/2011 6:55:47 AM PST by lbryce

Christopher Drew is a 60-year-old artist and teacher who wears a gray ponytail and lives on the North Side. Tiawanda Moore, 20, a former stripper, lives on the South Side and dreams of going back to school and starting a new life.

About the only thing these strangers have in common is the prospect that by spring, they could each be sent to prison for up to 15 years.

“That’s one step below attempted murder,” Mr. Drew said of their potential sentences.

The crime they are accused of is eavesdropping.

The authorities say that Mr. Drew and Ms. Moore audio-recorded their separate nonviolent encounters with Chicago police officers without the officers’ permission, a Class 1 felony in Illinois, which, along with Massachusetts and Oregon, has one of the country’s toughest, if rarely prosecuted, eavesdropping laws.

“Before they arrested me for it,” Ms. Moore said, “I didn’t even know there was a law about eavesdropping. I wasn’t trying to sue anybody. I just wanted somebody to know what had happened to me.”

Ms. Moore, whose trial is scheduled for Feb. 7 in Cook County Criminal Court, is accused of using her Blackberry to record two Internal Affairs investigators who spoke to her inside Police Headquarters while she filed a sexual harassment complaint last August against another police officer. Mr. Drew was charged with using a digital recorder to capture his Dec. 2, 2009, arrest for selling art without a permit on North State Street in the Loop. Mr. Drew said his trial date was April 4.

Both cases illustrate the increasingly busy and confusing intersection of technology and the law, public space and private.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: Massachusetts; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; communism; copbashingtrolls; corruption; felony; illinois; massachusetts; oregon; policestate; rapeofliberty; tiawandamoore; tyranny
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To: Paladin2
Doesn't sound like a beggar. Beggars offer nothing in return. This sounds like some marginal producer being harassed out of existence by an out of control government.

And people wonder why our economy continues to slip.

61 posted on 01/24/2011 9:40:18 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Travis McGee

Exactly so.


62 posted on 01/24/2011 9:42:33 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: SeeSac

Um... So what? Other businesses have a presence on the street don’t they? Was he blocking the right of way? If so, why wasn’t he ticketed for that instead?


63 posted on 01/24/2011 9:45:19 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: magslinger

Exactly what I was alluding to. Thanks for the link...


64 posted on 01/24/2011 9:46:00 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Dead Corpse
Um... So what? Other businesses have a presence on the street don’t they?

Just correcting your post.

65 posted on 01/24/2011 9:48:23 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

I like it when they have presents on the street. Free pie too.


66 posted on 01/24/2011 9:58:54 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
These kinds of laws have one purpose, and one purpose only: to assure that you cannot collect evidence against government officials.

Exactly, note well where these laws are in effect, and are prosecuted. Blue states mostly, these laws are a statist's wet dream...

the infowarrior

67 posted on 01/24/2011 10:07:11 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: lbryce

Liberal New York Times alert.


68 posted on 01/24/2011 10:07:11 AM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: SeeSac

That wasn’t a correction. That was picking a nonexistent nit.


69 posted on 01/24/2011 10:13:57 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: lbryce

>>Tiawanda Moore, 20, a former stripper, <<

And no comments?


70 posted on 01/24/2011 10:16:42 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: magslinger
No cruiser-cams?

No audio. Video is OK. Store security cams, nanny cams but no audio without consent.

71 posted on 01/24/2011 10:17:35 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion)
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To: CA Conservative
Interesting. So you have no radio or TV news there? Because I know out here the TV news often records audio of events, like protests, etc, and I seriously doubt they get a signed release from everyone in the crowd...

Signed release is not required when there is a microphone stuck in your face and you're talking into it, consent is implied.

Public events are just that - public. The law speaks to private conversations where a reasonable amount of privacy is to be expected.

72 posted on 01/24/2011 10:25:27 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
The law needs thrown out.

If you and I are talking and you threaten me, (which is a crime), isn't it comforting to know that if I am secretly recording the conversation, that it would be inadmissible in court?

73 posted on 01/24/2011 10:29:03 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion)
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To: NTHockey

>>Tiawanda Moore, 20, a former stripper, <<

And no comments?

_________________________________________
 
And no pictures???
 
Forget it. I'm getting a mental image of why she is a FORMER STRIPPER. And I don't want any more visuals.
 


74 posted on 01/24/2011 10:31:19 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: businessprofessor

Here’s the Colorado law concerning the matter:

http://www.ehow.com/facts_7574687_colorado-law-illegal-surveillance.html

Colorado law makes it illegal for anyone to listen into a conversation in which she is not taking part. This includes overhearing, reading, copying, recording of telephone calls and recording of any other electronic communications. Although obtaining information for the purpose of a crime is part of the statute, simply listening in purposely is enough to violate the law.

Read more: Colorado Law on Illegal Surveillance | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_7574687_colorado-law-illegal-surveillance.html#ixzz1BymFe74B


75 posted on 01/24/2011 10:40:11 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion)
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To: Responsibility2nd
She can still lap-dance with the best of them.

You doubt? Just ask Harry Reid.

76 posted on 01/24/2011 10:40:59 AM PST by lbryce
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To: CA Conservative
Here's your state law:

California's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. California makes it a crime to record or eavesdrop on any confidential communication, including a private conversation or telephone call, without the consent of all parties to the conversation. See Cal. Penal Code § 632. The statute applies to "confidential communications" -- i.e., conversations in which one of the parties has an objectively reasonable expectation that no one is listening in or overhearing the conversation.

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/california-recording-law

77 posted on 01/24/2011 10:45:25 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion)
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To: Dead Corpse
Selling art without a permit? WTF???

Art? These dudes are T-shirt vendors.

78 posted on 01/24/2011 11:01:49 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: lbryce
...allowing the audio recording of police officers while performing their duty “can affect how an officer does his job on the street."

Precisely. That is why it needs to be allowed.

79 posted on 01/24/2011 11:12:23 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Paladin2

Sorry about that... ...Arthritis in eight of my fingers, you know...


80 posted on 01/24/2011 11:16:55 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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