Eric Cantor: Obama is a citizen

Salon ^ | 1/23/11 | staff

[pissant]

The new Republican House majority leader says he doesn't think questions about President Barack Obama's citizenship should play a role in the discussion of policy matters.

Two years into the Obama administration, so-called birthers continue to argue that Obama isn't a natural-born citizen and that he hasn't proved he's constitutionally qualified to be president. Birth records in Hawaii haven't dissuaded them.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor says he believes Obama is a citizen and that most Americans are beyond that question.

[95B30]

Cantor, All we are asking is that obi proves it. Stop drinking the kool-aide and do your job...theres an idea.To go into the Military I had to show proof that I was a US Citizen, to get my job, I had to prove I was a US Citizen. The Constitution makes it clear that you must be a Natural born US citizen to be President, so make him show the proof!

[American Dream 246]

Wasn’t he listening during the reading of the Constitution???

Exactly! I almost said it but hit send too fast...thanks for the reminder :-)

[nathanbedford]

I think you are right if (and one must concede that that is a big "if") he was born abroad he was not a citizen much less a natural born citizen because his mother was not old enough.

My belief on this matter is that there is a plausible scenario by which Obama could have been born abroad and certified as having been born in Hawaii upon the fraudulent application of his mother or grandmother under the laws that existed in the state of Hawaii. In fact, if he were born abroad and was not a citizen that would provide a great motivation in the Dunhams to find a quick and easy way to get a birth certificate and passport without the bother, expense and time delay of applying for citizenship for Barak which might consume some years.

However, it is necessary to say that there is no credible affirmative evidence whatsoever that Obama was born anywhere but in Hawaii and there is affirmative evidence that he was born in Hawaii.

But since the scenario exists, it is not a tinfoil position to question his eligibility for office. Our politicians and our talk show hosts ran from the subject and cowered in the dark because of Obama's race. One must recall that at the time of the campaign it was illegitimate even to use Obama's middle name for fear of being called a racist. So the issue is settled and sealed in concrete and it has become equivalent of being a Truther to even raise the issue.

[exinnj]

Sarah Palin: “It’s a legitimate question”.

[freebird5850]

Obama is a citizen.....of Kenya!

[butterdezillion]

I’m not sure what it is. Probably just that they are afraid of bad press and ridicule, although I think there are some people who may have been threatened. The ones in more critical positions.

In any event, at this point the state-run media is going to get as many people as they can to try to say Constitutionalists on this issue are crazy, fringe people. We just need to expect that at the moment, but use the anger we feel about it to motivate us to action, because right now is the EXACT TIME we can EFFECTIVELY push to resolve this.

It needs to happen at the state level. The states get to decide how they determine who their electors can vote for. This whole mess can finally be resolved if just one state signs into law in time for 2012 a bill like the one I propose at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/final-short-form-eligibility-bill1.pdf

Deadlines for bills to be introduced are FAST approaching so immediate action is critical.

Quite a few states have eligibility bills already introduced, but it would be even better if they could be amended to add the requirement that TRANSACTION LOGS for any required documents also be disclosed, to screen for forgeries or tampering.

We are not going to get anything from Congress, the courts, the media, bureaucrats in Hawaii or any other state, or law enforcement. The one place where we CAN see immediate effective action is with our own state legislatures and governor.

This week everybody will be talking about SOTU. It’s gonna be a totally boring week. A GREAT time to concentrate on rallying our state legislators to pass a much-needed bill. Please spread the news around as much as you can, and ask everyone to ask their state legislators to introduce and pass this bill.

We are much, much more powerful than we think. We just need to focus our power like a laser to the one place that power can bring real results: the state legislatures.

[stockpirate]

Eric “the leftist prostitute” Cantor

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Right. Nobody disputes he is a "citizen." Cantor, please show me the Amendment that changed Article II, Section 1, Clause 5: "No Person except a natural born Citizen...

[jennings2004]

Two questions for Mr. Cantor:

1. Have you seen a certified copy of Mr. Obama’s birth certificate?

2. In case the answer to Question 1 is NO, then how is it possible to consider your comments valid?

[American Constitutionalist]

Eric Cantor, towing the propaganda line.... no way now would I ever vote for him for President...

[American Constitutionalist]

He just lost most of the Conservative vote.
Another RINO...

[philman_36]

I took the liberty of transcribing the conversation over on another thread...
.Cantor: I believe Obama is a US citizen (MSM in FULL cover mode for Barry!)
Would you let me know if you spot any errors? (if you read it that is)

[butterdezillion]

There isn’t affirmative evidence that he was born in Hawaii. The HDOH has indirectly confirmed that Obama’s BC was amended in 2006, meaning that it is not legally valid. It has no probative value. If the HDOH has been accurate in their responses to me, that amendment was almost certainly to add a birth weight so the BC would be complete, which would also mean that his BC is about 45 years late - another reason for it to be legally invalid.

Neither Fukino, Okubo, nor ANYBODY has ever claimed that there even IS a legally-valid BC for Obama, much less that a legally-valid BC says he was born in Hawaii.

The HDOH’s official written responses to UIPA requests have revealed in at least 2 different ways that they knew the Factcheck COLB is a forgery. When asked if they would have a duty to report a known forgery to law enforcement, Okubo responded that she can’t disclose anything about a BC and OIP said (basically) maybe and maybe not.

So who knows what is the truth. Their statements don’t match the laws or each other. Discrepancies all over the place. Laws broken all over the place.

But if what the HDOH has said is true, they don’t have a legally-valid BC for Obama. And that should have resulted in a legal investigatio a long, long time ago.

[kinghorse]

This is really the only logical reason for republican leadership to weigh in on the subject, much less weigh in in an attempt to squash to growing sentiment. In other words, it’s not time yet to throw Obama overboard. He has some very important work to do before his troubles can be brought to light. Obama Hussein is the cover America needs during any action against Iran. He’s going straight to the friendly nations of the middle east, Egypt for starters and will be there for one reason and one reason only, to keep the Arab street from going radically against the US over Israel’s actions.

He’s the President now for a reason. Too many republicans are comfortable with him there, most notably War Hawk George Bush, for it to be any other way. Hell Cheney just disagrees with Obama on the edges when it comes to America’s favorite pet project, keeping the Islamic militancy movement from getting any bigger.

If Obama wanted to bring the people from Guantanamo to the states, it was just to mollify ME feelings, not out of some sense of justice. He was trying kiss ME ass. But even he found out you can’t try foreign terrorists with US jurors. It violates one of the most basic tenets of the Magna Carta. You can only sit in judgement of your peers and likewise deserve to only be judged by your peers should you be charged with a crime.

[LeoWindhorse]

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/114451599.html

[Walts Ice Pick]

It needs to happen at the state level.

Why can't it be resolved now by a House subpoena for these documents?

I am fairly certain that no other state can resolve this issue. Why do you think that federal courts will not compel every state to recognize (full faith and credit) as legitimate whatever public documents the State of Hawaii claims are determinative?

So, focus on this: Why can't Speaker Boehner or Congressman Issa just subpoena these materials?

[LeoWindhorse]

“Below are responses to frequently asked questions related to all records and documents maintained by the Hawaii State Department of Health (DOH) related to the vital records of President Barack Hussein Obama II. Frequently requested records and documents which can be released to the public are attached by electronic link below or, for those records and documents that are not available electronically, directions are provided for requesting copies.”

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

[kinghorse]

But to do that would require breaking a fundamental fact. The politicians in DC are all more or less on the same team when it comes to security issues. They think they know better because they know the secrets. This is why they hold the teaparty in such low regard. They see the Tea Party as a threat to national security because they think that would mean buffoons were in charge instead of their highly pedigreed and in the know selves.

[DoughtyOne]

It is my take on things, that people in the U. S. have been led to believe that we are far advanced over other nations. And in obvious ways, that’s a fact. In not so obvious ways, I think folks buy off on it across the board.

Did Kenya keep any records of births in the early 70s? That’s a very real possibility. Is there, or perhaps even was there a paper trail in Kenya? Has anyone actually looked? Could that paperwork have been destroyed, for a fee?

I’m by no means convinced that a paper trail didn’t exist at one point.

Obama’s grandma said she was present when he was born in Kenya. Some Kenyan authorities made statements that Obama was born in Kenya. There must have been ‘some basis’ for those comments. What did grandma have to gain? What did those authorities have to gain?

I find the whole issue to be rife with little gems that would shake my confidence greatly, if I truly believed he was born in the U. S.

[butterdezillion]

Thank you so much. I can’t see video on my computer so I always depend on what others transcribe or comment about the videos.

The thing that stands out to me in that conversation is HOW DESPERATELY Gregory wanted Cantor to call us crazy.

They said that would be the game plan going into the 2010 election. How’d that work out for them?

Now they’re trying again. But did you notice how HARD Gregory had to work to get anything that could even pass for a decent sound-bite against us? I wish Cantor would have laid the issue out flat and totally flattened Gregory like a steamroller. I wish he would have turned it on him and said that people like Gregory are the crazy ones. Cantor wanted to focus on issues I think.

But the whole thing revealed that the media is DESPERATELY trying to find people to say we’re crazy, and they didn’t get Cantor to do that.