Posted on 01/22/2011 4:35:26 AM PST by markomalley
A privacy law that shields birth certificates has prompted Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie to abandon efforts to dispel claims that President Barack Obama was born outside Hawaii, his office says.
State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual's birth documentation without the person's consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.
"There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document," said Dela Cruz. "Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president."
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Come 2012, once we have secured the Senate and consolidated our midterm victories, I have a feeling this birth certificate issue is going to gain traction and it’s gonna be time to “go hunting” again.
There isn’t a Republican Politician in this country with the guts to bring this up , NOW or in 2012.
I only wish there were.
Dela Cruz is spokesperson for the governor and has no better command of the language than to confuse conspirator with conspiracy theorist.
Utter crap and they know it. To the PRIVATE citizen I can see this application of law, to a person who would be commander in chief, president of our country he has NO SUCH PRIVACY PROMISE....he has a specific CONSTITUTIONAL mandate to meet which he has NOT proven fully and that means show your proof. If this document exists he should be forced to show it to satisfy the constitutional requirement.
Two points. We know what the constitutional amendment is. What is the rules on verification? Someone had to present his birth certificate in it’s original form to get him on the ballot. And i am sure that would be recorded. By whom? That’s the person who needs to be dragged in front of congress.
We’ll see what happens come 2012.
Absolutely, and preferably a law that also requires that the TRANSACTION LOGS for those records be required as well, which would show the provenance and authenticity of the birth record as well (protecting from forgery and/or tampering with the record).
This is a bill that I’m suggesting people recommend to their state legislatures: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2656925/posts
This is disgusting to see the HI AG’s office lie for Obama. Hawaii’s UIPA requires that records created or maintained for the purpose of informing the public be disclosed to anybody who requests them. So when Fukino “informed the public” regarding Obama’s documents in public annoucements those records automatically became public records.
The idea is that if public officials are going to make public statements about what’s on a BC then they darn well have to show the proof for what they’re saying.
The HI AG knows that and is lying his fool head off about Obama’s records not being discloseable. As soon as Fukino made those 2 public statements, in Oct 2008 and in July 2009, she made all of the referenced records PUBLIC BY LAW.
Liars.
If what you say is correct, it's scary that he got elected to the governorship of Hawaii, and scarier yet that his own party bigwigs and the power 'enthroned' at the WH can't control him.
Pathetic, if he's that far gone.....
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“...but what is there on that birth certificate that he doesn’t want us to see?”
That is exactly what I believe.
It isn’t that it doesn’t exist, it is what he does not want to be viewed.
LOL...how conveeeenient. Abercrombie found out there is no valid certificate, so now he is hiding behind the usual refuge of cornered Liberals, Privacy.
Say, Muawiyah....
What are laws regarding getting the birth certificates of your aunts, uncles, cousins???
Don't you believe that the HUGE Mormon Temple in Honolulu would have a record of Stanley Ann Dunham's son, no matter what name he was born with???
Since Barry is related to many millions of Americans through his mom's very early 17th century colonial Americans -- can't ANY of them, related by blood, request a certified copy of his BC???
Couldn't we locate at least several dozen second cousins of his who'd gladly send in for a copy????? Wouldn't that be CLOSE enough in relation???
How come the mormons don't seem to have any public records about his REAL progeny???
Yes. This is the only way it is going to happen. And we CAN make it happen
This is what we can do that goes beyond just complaining. It can actually make a difference.
At this point our top goal on this issue should be getting practical measures in place to combat all the “lack of standing”, bureaucratic obfuscation, lack of accountability, no definition of NBC, etc problems we’ve encountered. No amount of research that we do can make a legal difference if there is no mechanism for accountability.
We should not accept the lies by the HI AG. As I’ve explained in another post, Fukino’s announcements about the content in Obama’s “vital records” automatically made those records public, and their disclosure to the public is MANDATED by UIPA. But we should take our anger over their lies and use it to fuel EFFECTIVE action, which at this point is getting an effective eligibility bill enacted in at least one state.
This is the bill I think we need: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2656925/posts
Interesting this comes out the day after Rush gets on the case.
So the Gov should call his good friend Obama and say, “Please authorize...”
Isn’t that easy?
No, because Obama has chosen in the past to ignore other requests to address the issue. By the way, Nathan Deal has since become our new Governor.
Political Insider White House confirms receipt of Nathan Deal letter questioning birthplace of Barack Obama
I'm guessing there are enough of We, the People, sufficiently interested and invested in our government following the Constitution, to petition the President to reaffirm his commitment to his sworn oath and his campaign promises of transparency and produce his historical documents for us and posterity.
Too bad we simple citizens can't compel him to do the right thing now and show us what every other American has to show for far less serious privileges than the Presidency.
None the less, we should each be able to make our state certify that the candidates who are on our ballots meet the Constitutional qualifications to run for those offices.
Makes sense. You can’t release what doesn’t exist.
Yet Barry has a pocket full of ss cards.
Do you happen to know if there is any way to find out if the big Mormon Temple in Hawaii has correct genealogical records of Stanley Ann Dunham’s son, no matter what his name at birth may have been?
“Do they even realize how entirely bogus “
Hey! Leave me outa this. Please!
Is Obama’s broke half-bother considered close enough to get the birth certificate? If so, why doesn’t someone get him a job or something and talk him into it? Seems like he might want to pay his dear old brother back for not helping him out anyways.
The fact remains that the PREVIOUS GOVERNOR said he locked it away
so.... which one of them is LYING!!!???
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