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Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

Posted on 01/19/2011 7:59:37 AM PST by RED SOUTH

Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; duplicate; eligibility; hawai; hawaii; hawaiianeye; hawaiifiveoh; honeywest; naturalborncitizen; obama; palin; wingnutdaily
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To: RED SOUTH

Congressman Darryl Issa is quoted today as saying no “birther” investigations for him.
From an article published in the latest issue of the New Yorker Magazine:

Issa has tried to draw a line separating events that he considers appropriate subjects for investigation and those which he deems inappropriate. He has criticized his predecessors for wasting time looking into matters involving the Clintons that predated their arrival at the White House, such as the Whitewater and cattle-futures episodes. “These are items that occurred before the President was elected,” Issa told me. “I would not have viewed them as particularly significant.” He added that issues involving Obama’s past are also off limits, such as “the birther question.” Implicit in this rule is that his past should also be left undisturbed.

“Darrell’s sensitive about fixating too much on his past,” Bardella said. “Obviously, the stuff that happened . . .” His voice trailed off. “We can talk about it, as well we should. It is part of his past, but it does make him somewhat wary.”

The section quoted above is about 3/4ths of the way through a rather lengthy article.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/01/24/110124fa_fact_lizza?printable=true#ixzz1BWPh1nYF


61 posted on 01/19/2011 2:16:07 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
It is getting to be too late to do much about the current term of the usurper, but it doesn't mean we can't prevent him from being reelected.

By the way, it looks like there's a scan available of the handwritten birth record from the state archives as found by Governor Abercrombie.




















62 posted on 01/19/2011 2:24:06 PM PST by edge919
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To: ConjunctionJunction

All I know is that Lingle does not have any first-hand knowledge of what the long-form says, because she has not seen it herself.


Former Governor Lingle and former Director Fukino can be subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury investigation or before a congressional investigation into Obama’s eligibility.
Governor Lingle can testify as to what she ordered Dr. Fukino to do and what Dr. Fukino reported back to her.
Dr. Fukino and Dr. Alvin Onaka, Registrar of Vital Statistics can both provide eyewitness testimony.


63 posted on 01/19/2011 2:27:58 PM PST by jamese777
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To: edge919

It is getting to be too late to do much about the current term of the usurper, but it doesn’t mean we can’t prevent him from being reelected.
By the way, it looks like there’s a scan available of the handwritten birth record from the state archives as found by Governor Abercrombie.


HOLY SMOKES!!! I AGREE with you! ;-)


64 posted on 01/19/2011 2:29:55 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Yes, my point was that Lingle cannot say anything about what the document says, because she has not seen the document herself. She can say what she said to Dr. Fukino and what Dr. Fukino, and then we get into hearsay Rules of Evidence stuff.


65 posted on 01/19/2011 2:33:26 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: RWGinger
Lingle was a Repub so can’t see a motive for her lying

Lingle was a big duke on McCain's Campaign Committee.

She was in on The Deal.


66 posted on 01/19/2011 4:13:03 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: depressed in 06

There has been recent posts by a kenyan that was born a month before Obama. it was in the same hospital claimed. The Registrar was the same as the claimed obama BC(from kenya). I don’t have a link but maybe someone here has it. In any event, Kenya had Certified records going back to 1961. Hawaii should be much further along at that point. kenya, not so much.


67 posted on 01/19/2011 4:26:27 PM PST by DrDude
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To: Brookhaven
Didn’t the previous gov. (a Republican) say she had seen the original?

WTF is going on here?

Lingle said the Hawaiian DoH Director Fukino saw it.

And

"Hawaii Officials Lie For Obama"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nwjykFzqSM

68 posted on 01/19/2011 6:24:57 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: edge919; jamese777
HOLY SMOKES!!! I AGREE with you! ;-)



So that you know what he means by agreeing with you.


From the Obot Jameseee7777:

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"I’m not talking about a witnessed birth certificate, Birtherbot. I’m talking about a faked birth certificate that might have been sent from Kapiolani to the Hawaii Bureau of Health in 1961. A created document would also explain why the Nordyke Twins’ registration numbers are higher than Obama’s even though they were born a day later.

Madelyn Dunham was a Vice President of the Bank of Hawaii, a simple exchange of a loan for a birth certificate would not be that difficult to arrange and it would explain why for three years now, official of the state have continued to attest to a valid birth record being on file for Obama at the Department of Health."

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Great non-logic there BOt. You're out there in very far left field.

You say Grandma Maddy Dunham inserted a forged Obama BC into the government records by bribing Hawaiian official(s) in 1961 because she was an influential and corrupt bank VP. It should an excellent forgery since you say she had inside help. It should fool everyone. So why can't OberCommie find this super good fraudulent Obama long form birth certificate? The only thing Crummy Commie has found is some scribble somewhere with Obama's name on it. LoL.



69 posted on 01/19/2011 7:14:26 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: wideminded

That explanation doesn’t work. I have asked to see the original handwritten ledger (1961 birth index) and after much ado was told that all it ever had on it was a location for a file so they destroyed it without bothering to ask permission to destroy it (in spite of the permanent retention requirement) or leaving any records that they destroyed it.

Sort of like they claim happened with the passport applications for just the time period when Ann Dunham/Obama/Soetoro’s relevant passport applications would have been from. Never mind that other applications from the same time period still exist.

And in any event, Fukino claimed that she saw the actual “vital records” - and conveniently forgot to mention that they are not legally valid (as the HDOH indirectly confirmed).


70 posted on 01/19/2011 8:28:02 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Red Steel

Great...just what I need to do, re-read my own days old posts!zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Thanks for the wonderful memories of posts gone by.


71 posted on 01/19/2011 8:37:52 PM PST by jamese777
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To: RED SOUTH

Ever since we did some spring cleaning back in 2008, we haven’t been able to find that silly birth certificate. Ain’t that strange? It gotta be around here somewhere.


72 posted on 01/19/2011 8:38:19 PM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: All; edge919

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T’was not a legal Hawaiian Birth if new Mommies state for all to hear, including myself, outside Hawaii that her new born was born in another state, in Europe or in Africa.

Which I personally overheard several times during the 1960’s.

Just thought I’d add a first hand in person account to the mix on this Issue?

Also, Barack Obama was born during the very time period that the American People really fell in love with JFK on TV during his extraordinary televised live Preidential News Conferences. Greatly inspiring new Mommies and Daddies to groom their new offspring to be President of the United States someday.

Very, very common during the year 1961.

I know, I was there.

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73 posted on 01/20/2011 4:01:38 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

“This article doesn’t gain credibility no matter how often it’s posted.”

What if I repost it in ALL CAPS?


74 posted on 01/22/2011 5:41:29 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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