Posted on 01/18/2011 7:30:20 PM PST by autumnraine
Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.
Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.
Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again yesterday another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.
Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: "You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?"
In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have."
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Suggesting he was still intent on producing more birth records on Obama from the Hawaii Department of Health vital records vault, Abercrombie told the newspaper there was a recording of the Obama birth in the state archives that he wants to make public.
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He’ll surely have something to prove cherry wrong. Lol
Then go on genius
There's a lot of information in that one statement. First, she doesn't say she saw his original long form BC. Second, she says recordSSSSSS. Who has multiple records of their birth? Possible reasons to have muliple records are he wasn't born in Hawaii, that there was some sort of amendment or there was some other legal problem that caused multiple filings over a period of time. Multiple records would mean either granny had to fill out several forms to get his COLB (note - not long form) or he's gone back to make changes. Some changes can be made by the person signing a general form while others would require a lawyer and the court. Of course, any court proceeding involving a minor would be closed but it would be most interesting if someone could request those. Also, there would be the lawyers' personal records. But we've seen funny business with that missing page in the divorce record so he's had time to scrub that trail as well.
“Barack Hussein 0bama is ON THE SEPARATED LIST - and not on the American born list.”
You should note that this is exactly consistent with what we have set out would be found in the Hawaii file--the form BHO Sr. filed on August 8, 1961 and filled out showing that Junior was born in Coast Provincial General Hospital.
There’s a lot of information in that one statement. First, she doesn’t say she saw his original long form BC. Second, she says recordSSSSSS. Who has multiple records of their birth? Possible reasons to have muliple records are he wasn’t born in Hawaii, that there was some sort of amendment or there was some other legal problem that caused multiple filings over a period of time. Multiple records would mean either granny had to fill out several forms to get his COLB (note - not long form) or he’s gone back to make changes. Some changes can be made by the person signing a general form while others would require a lawyer and the court. Of course, any court proceeding involving a minor would be closed but it would be most interesting if someone could request those. Also, there would be the lawyers’ personal records. But we’ve seen funny business with that missing page in the divorce record so he’s had time to scrub that trail as well.
My guess is that Granny Dunham had a birth record for Obama created by her contacts at Kapiolani Hospital in 1961 and it got sent along with other births at the hospital of the first weekend in August, 1961 to the Health Bureau and was recorded as a legitimate Hawaiian birth.
Pure speculation on my part, but I believe that if we ever see a long form birth certificate, it will say that Dr. Rodney T. West was the physician. Now whether Dr. West actually delievered Barack Obama or just created a birth document for him, we may never know.
Here’s the story on Dr. West, if you don’t already know it:
http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res10o2yg/obama/Teacher%20from%20Kenmore%20recalls%20Obama%20was%20a%20focused%20student%20%20Don’t%20Miss%20%20The%20Buffalo%20News.htm
This is a ridiculous justification. No. 3 is an abstract of No. 2. It's not a separate record. Both have equal legal weight as prima facie evidence. No. 1 doesn't include a place of birth, so this could NOT be one of the alleged 'records' that Fukino was referring to. Sorry, but this is a massive, ridiculous fail.
This is a ridiculous justification. No. 3 is an abstract of No. 2. It’s not a separate record. Both have equal legal weight as prima facie evidence. No. 1 doesn’t include a place of birth, so this could NOT be one of the alleged ‘records’ that Fukino was referring to. Sorry, but this is a massive, ridiculous fail.
Yeah, the ol’ “Stanley had a baby” myth.
Yeah, the ol’ “Stanley had a baby” myth.
Ummm, do you not understand that Governor Abercrombie cannot find this alleged 'original birth certificate'?? How is this statement supposed to help?? If anything, it reveals that Fukino may have been lying outright and that there are no other records on file.
Ummm, do you not understand that Governor Abercrombie cannot find this alleged ‘original birth certificate’?? How is this statement supposed to help?? If anything, it reveals that Fukino may have been lying outright and that there are no other records on file.
This doesn’t sound like an original birth certificate to me:
It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...
but 0bama wrote in his book that he had a copy of one. Why doesn’t he just share it, instead of creating a forged short form?
The state Health Director in the former governor’s administration confirmed the authenticity of the short form COLB posted on Obama’s campaign web site in sworn testimony before the Hawaii Senate Committee on the Judiciary and Government Operations on February 23, 2010.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2010/Testimony/SB2937_TESTIMONY_JGO_02-23-10_LATE.pdf
I’m coming late to this discussion, but isn’t it curious that Abercrombie says the document is in the STATE ARCHIVES? This differs from the HDOH. They have only pre-1929 birth and other vital records in the State Archives. There’s a plethora of other records (administrative records, grant records, employee records, some medical records, genealogy records, land records, etc.) Check out their website to see. All these records have various retention times, but they correspond somewhat with what’s found in the National Archives. So could this written-down item perhaps be the “original” of the letter Abercrombie himself says he got from the WH, the one that claims Obama was born at Kapiolani? Or could it be part of Obama’s purported mother’s college records, say from the East-West Center? If she got a scholarship from some entity (and since we know she was employed by NGOs), funded by state or federal grants, then perhaps her children are mentioned in some record retained in the state archives.
In that statement, there is absolutely no confirmation of the authenticity of the BC posted by 0bama.
However to any judge or member of Congress reviewing Dr. Fukino’s statement: “...in spite of the fact that President Obama posted a copy of the birth certificate on his former campaign web site” being said by the Director of Health for the state of Hawaii is most definitely confirmation.
Particularly after that same Lingle Administration official had issued a news release stating: “...verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born American citizen.”
And even more authentification came from the St. Petersburg Times newspaper who got a copy of Obama’s COLB from the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago and they e-mailed the COLB to Janice Okubo, Director of Communications for the Hawaii Department of Health and Ms. Okubo’s response was “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate.”
And the former Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle said in a radio interview: “You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Sen. McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. ... It’s been established. He was born here.”
I believe that if any of those Republican state officials are ever called to give depositions or testify under oath in a trial or before Congress, they would be willing to confirm and amplify their previously made statements.
I think it’s more likely he got it (caught) from one of “those” Chicago men bathhouses, you know, or from someone other than Larry Sinclair!!!
Of course not. Because Tim Adams “took” it with him when he went to Kentucky!!!
http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/hawaii-election-clerk-story-grows-on-youtube/
If that's the fact, WHY did the first "Birthers," (and btw, do you know WHO they are) demanded to see Juan McPain's B.C., hmmmm???
Miss jamese, you are so full of lies and has been for a long time!
Human Event just published 10 issues that Issa is going to deal with!!
Your dear Fuehrer's NBC is ONE of the ten!!!
Did you noticed that your twins NS/Drew was escorted to the door, and so was your pal TNTNT???
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