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To: bgill

There’s a lot of information in that one statement. First, she doesn’t say she saw his original long form BC. Second, she says recordSSSSSS. Who has multiple records of their birth? Possible reasons to have muliple records are he wasn’t born in Hawaii, that there was some sort of amendment or there was some other legal problem that caused multiple filings over a period of time. Multiple records would mean either granny had to fill out several forms to get his COLB (note - not long form) or he’s gone back to make changes. Some changes can be made by the person signing a general form while others would require a lawyer and the court. Of course, any court proceeding involving a minor would be closed but it would be most interesting if someone could request those. Also, there would be the lawyers’ personal records. But we’ve seen funny business with that missing page in the divorce record so he’s had time to scrub that trail as well.


The Hawaii Department of Health maintains:
(1) An Index File of any Vital Record (birth, death, marriage, adoption).
(2) The original, vault copy Certificate of Live Birth (long form).
(3) A computer print out Certification of Live Birth (short form).
Hence, “records.”

There were no “short form COLBs” in Hawaii until the state digitized its vital records in 2001.

My guess is that Granny Dunham had a birth record for Obama created by her contacts at Kapiolani Hospital in 1961 and it got sent along with other births at the hospital of the first weekend in August, 1961 to the Health Bureau and was recorded as a legitimate Hawaiian birth.
Pure speculation on my part, but I believe that if we ever see a long form birth certificate, it will say that Dr. Rodney T. West was the physician. Now whether Dr. West actually delievered Barack Obama or just created a birth document for him, we may never know.
Here’s the story on Dr. West, if you don’t already know it:
http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res10o2yg/obama/Teacher%20from%20Kenmore%20recalls%20Obama%20was%20a%20focused%20student%20%20Don’t%20Miss%20%20The%20Buffalo%20News.htm


225 posted on 01/20/2011 11:22:17 AM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
The Hawaii Department of Health maintains: (1) An Index File of any Vital Record (birth, death, marriage, adoption). (2) The original, vault copy Certificate of Live Birth (long form). (3) A computer print out Certification of Live Birth (short form). Hence, “records.”

This is a ridiculous justification. No. 3 is an abstract of No. 2. It's not a separate record. Both have equal legal weight as prima facie evidence. No. 1 doesn't include a place of birth, so this could NOT be one of the alleged 'records' that Fukino was referring to. Sorry, but this is a massive, ridiculous fail.

226 posted on 01/20/2011 11:58:47 AM PST by edge919
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To: jamese777

Yeah, the ol’ “Stanley had a baby” myth.


228 posted on 01/20/2011 12:24:08 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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