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Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate
World Net Daily ^ | 01-18-2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 01/18/2011 7:30:20 PM PST by autumnraine

Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.

Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again yesterday another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.

Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: "You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?"

In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have."

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Suggesting he was still intent on producing more birth records on Obama from the Hawaii Department of Health vital records vault, Abercrombie told the newspaper there was a recording of the Obama birth in the state archives that he wants to make public.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
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To: El Sordo
I have a challenge for you, too, El Sordo.

Please name **ONE** judge, elected legislator, electoral college member, or military person who has **seen** and handled **any** government certified and court acceptable evidence proving or disproving Obama’s natural born citizenship.

Please name **ONE**.

The only evidence seen by judges, legislators, electoral college members, or military have been Internet images of questionable origin, and a carefully massaged statement from Fukino, that reveals nothing, and hearsay from Lingle. Wow! ( Why am I unimpressed?)

201 posted on 01/19/2011 5:05:44 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: Brown Deer
"So, the birth certificate has disappeared sometime in the past eight months? "



Hawaii

202 posted on 01/19/2011 5:16:26 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: wintertime

None that I know of.

Which also happens to be the exact same number that have done so for the previous forty three Presidents.

That you keep asking an immaterial question because it is important to you doesn’t make it important to the actual process.


203 posted on 01/19/2011 5:17:37 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: wintertime

Well.....Since it is sooooooooo clearly straight forward that Obama is a natural born citizen, then he should immediately release all of the best evidence that would prove or disprove his eligibility.
A nod of his head to his secretary and by tomorrow all this would be completely settled.

I have a challenge for you.

Please name **ONE** judge, legislator, elector college voter, or member of the military that has **seen** and handled **any** government certified evidence proving or disproving Obama’s eligibility.

Please name **ONE**.


Now that’s a trick question! I have no personal knowledge of which judges, legislators, electors or members of the military have seen Obama’s CERTIFICATION of Live Birth from the state of Hawaii (Registration Number 151-1961-01641) at his former campaign website.
Obama Birth Certificate Fold and Seal:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_1.jpg
Full Certificate:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg
Full Certificate #2:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg
Obama Certification of Live Birth Top Third:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_4.jpg
Obama Certification of Live Birth Middle Third:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg
Obama Certification of Live Birth Bottom Third:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_6.jpg
Obama Certification of Live Birth Stamp and Seal:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_7.jpg
Obama Certificaton of Live Birth Seal:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_8.jpg
Obama Certification of Live Birth Stamp:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_9.jpg

“Sworn testimony of the Director Of Health before the Hawaii Senate Committee on the Judiciary and Government Operations:
“For more than a year now, the Department has continued to receive approximately 50 e-mail inquiries a month seeking access to President Obama’s birth certificate IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS POSTED A COPY OF THE CERTIFICATE ON HIS FORMER CAMPAIGN WEB SITE.”—Dr. Chiyome Fukino, February 23, 2010.

In fact, I have no personal knowledge of any judge, legislator, elector or member of the military who has seen Herbert Hoover’s government certified evidence of birth, Franklin Roosevelt’s government certified evidence of birth, Lyndon Johnson’s government certified evidence of birth, Richard Nixon’s government certified evidence of birth, or President Leslie Lynch King Junior’s government certified evidence of birth...on and on I could go.


204 posted on 01/19/2011 5:32:41 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Red Steel
Abercrombie told the newspaper there was a recording of the Obama birth in the state archives that he wants to make public.

Interesting...


205 posted on 01/19/2011 5:32:56 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

As I recall, that particular COLB document was traced to a Midwest lawyer maybe from Wisconsin who put it out there.


206 posted on 01/19/2011 5:41:58 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: jamese777
Now that’s a trick question! I have no personal knowledge of which judges, legislators, electors or members of the military have seen Obama’s CERTIFICATION of Live Birth from the state of Hawaii (Registration Number 151-1961-01641) at his former campaign website

Translation:

You can not name even **one** legislator, judge, electoral college member, or military person who has actually seen or handled any government certified and court acceptable evidence. You can NOT provide even ONE link.

The only evidence available to any of the people listed above were Internet images of dubious origin, a carefully crafted statement from Fukino that proves exactly nothing, and hearsay from Lingle. Oh boy! ( sigh!)

Oops! I forgot! One judge claimed to have seen "twitters"!

207 posted on 01/19/2011 5:42:03 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: jamese777; wintertime; Beckwith
Please name **ONE** judge, legislator, elector college voter, or member of the military that has **seen** and handled **any** government certified evidence proving or disproving Obama’s eligibility.

Here's the trick reply:
I have no personal knowledge of which judges, legislators, electors or members of the military have seen Obama’s CERTIFICATION of Live Birth from the state of Hawaii (Registration Number 151-1961-01641) at his former campaign website.

which translates to:
I have no personal knowledge of which judges, legislators, electors or members of the military have seen Obama’s phony certification of live birth.

It was Jess Henig and Joe Miller from Annenberg who falsely claimed that 0bama's birth certificate was not a forgery.
Neither one of them are document experts. Joe Miller's expertise is Political Philosophy and Jess Henig's expertise is English literature. At least three document experts have proven or stated that the birth certificate posted was fake!
208 posted on 01/19/2011 6:00:15 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: wintertime

Translation:

You can not name even **one** legislator, judge, electoral college member, or military person who has actually seen or handled any government certified and court acceptable evidence. You can NOT provide even ONE link.

The only evidence available to any of the people listed above were Internet images of dubious origin, a carefully crafted statement from Fukino that proves exactly nothing, and hearsay from Lingle. Oh boy! ( sigh!)

Oops! I forgot! One judge claimed to have seen “twitters”!


By Jove, I think Wintertime’s got it!

I cannot for the life of me name a single judge, elected official, elector or member of the military who has seen ANY president’s government certified and court acceptable proof of birth, including government certified and court acceptable proof of birth for the 44th President of the United States.

I do know however that if any judge, elected official, elector or member of the military WANTED to see government certified and court acceptable proof of birth for Barack Hussein Obama Jr., they could go get a subpoena for that information and have it released WITHOUT OBAMA’S PERMISSION to “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction.”—Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18(b)(9).

Obviously judges, elected officials, electors and members of the military aren’t that interested.

Finally, I CAN name an elected official who can issue a congressional subpoena for any and all of Obama’s records all by himself! His name is Congressman Darrell Issa, Republican of California, Chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, the chief investigative committee of the House of Representatives.
At least for the first few weeks in his new job, Chairman Issa also isn’t interested.


209 posted on 01/19/2011 6:14:08 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Brown Deer

“It was Jess Henig and Joe Miller from Annenberg who falsely claimed that 0bama’s birth certificate was not a forgery.”


The state of Hawaii official who has statuatory authority to oversee and authenticate all vital records in that state has confirmed the authenticity of Obama’s Certification of Live Birth on several different occasions.

No one can determine the authenticity of a document by looking at a scanned (photoshopped) IMAGE of that document on an internet web site. You need the original document.


“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf

“For more than a year, the Department of Health has continued to receive approximately 50 e-mail inquiries a month seeking access to President Barack Obama’s birth certificate in spite of the fact that President Obama has posted a copy of the certificate on his former campaign website. Hawaii is a “closed records” state, meaning that vital records are available only to those with a direct and tangible interest as defined by statute; hence, they are not subject to disclosure under public records requests.”—
Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of Health, State of Hawai’i, testimony before the Hawai’i Senate Committee on the Judiciary and Government Operations, February 23, 2010.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2010/Testimony/SB2937_TESTIMONY_JGO_02-23-10_LATE.pdf


210 posted on 01/19/2011 6:36:26 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
The state of Hawaii official who has statuatory authority to oversee and authenticate all vital records in that state has confirmed the authenticity of Obama’s Certification of Live Birth on several different occasions.

This has NEVER happened!

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health"...

How did they all of a sudden disappear?
211 posted on 01/19/2011 6:43:29 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

The state of Hawaii official who has statuatory authority to oversee and authenticate all vital records in that state has confirmed the authenticity of Obama’s Certification of Live Birth on several different occasions.

This has NEVER happened!

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health”...

How did they all of a sudden disappear?


You’ve got to stop believing everything you read on the internet.
The Governor never said anything remotely like “the records have disappeared.”
Here’s what he actually said: “Q: You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plans to release more information regarding President Barack Obama’s birth certificate. How is that coming?

A: I got a letter from someone the other day who was genuinely concerned about it; it is not all just political agenda. They were talking on Olelo last night about this; it has a political implication for 2012 that we simply cannot have.

(Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.)

It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...

...What I can do, and all I have ever said, is that I am going to see to it as governor that I can verify to anyone who is honest about it that this is the case.

If there is a political agenda then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president.”
http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorials/20110118_This_is_a_collaborative_endeavor.html
(It’s the last question in the interview)


212 posted on 01/19/2011 6:56:17 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Brown Deer

Obama X marks the spot

I’m going to whisper this, because I do not want Democrat Neil Abercrombie to figure this out nor Chris Matthews.........or even that Obamanazi Ann Coulter who investigated and certified Obama, before it is too late.

The too late part is Abercrombie has been digging around in Obama’s records, and has let slip that there is no Certificate Of Live Birth or COLB, exactly as that Democratic kid who was on WND said there was not, and proving the point what Birthers stated all long that Obama is undocumented, in he could not enroll in grade school in Hawaii, because he has no legitimate nor legal birth certificate.

To repeat this point so even Sean Hannity gets it, THE BIRTHERS HAVE BEEN PROVEN CORRECT.

What this blog is going to expose though in exclusive is what I’m whispering about, and what Neil Abercrombie has no idea of in what he just exposed.

Only here was it exposed how the communists of America overthrew the Republican form of Government of Alaska for this Obama Marxism, in how they set upon a path of “darkening up” Hawaii from a prosperous white conglomerate state to a welfare fraud state which was registering and STILL IS REGISTERING hundreds of thousands of foreign babies as Americans.

This is what the birth of Obama has been hiding, and was covered up by Alaskans from the RINO GOP and the Democratic left. There was for a generation a wholesale treachery against America and everyone in government, hospitals and business was in on it.
Illegals brought in welfare revenues and brought in increased populations so Hawaii received more power in Congress. It was treacherousness wholesale and if Hawaii admits it, their leaders are going to prison or going to be hung.

That is what Abercrombie blundered into, in his Obama’s birth was recorded statement.

See for a legal birth anywhere, just like in a legal death, a medical professional with a witness must certify the document is correct. That means in criminal court terms that people are putting their freedom and job security on the line, if they lie, they go to prison.

Doctors for these illegals were not about to certify that these babies were born in Hawaii when they were birthed elsewhere or in some pineapple patch, because doing so would have if this ring had ever been disclosed by an FBI investigation wholesale treason against these United States.

The alternative then therefore was for these “don’t ask don’t tell” registrations by family members or some union thugs in everyone knew that Sung Lee Wong was not an infant at 2 years old born in Hawaii, but was a 2 year old Cantonese border buster, but her name was recorded by the State of Hawaii as a citizen, because all that took was a clerk being told to look the other way by their higher ups, and the word of someone committing perjury and fraud about this baby.

That is waht Abercrombie revealed in the “recorded list”. Hawaii has a separated list which this dupnik apparently was not aware of in order to bypass normal American registrations so doctors were not on the legal hook, and these foreign born infants could just be dumped into the system as Hawaii was not going to ask and no one there was going to tell in this corrupt intrastate system.

Barack Hussein Obama is ON THE SEPERATED LIST and not on the American born list.

I know there are dozens of officials in Hawaii whose eyes squeezed tightly shut, their guts tied up in knots and they groaned, “What the hell did Abercrombie say that for!”, because the insiders in the system know what this dupnik has just exposed.

This blog exclusively laid out the scenario in which Barry II was most likely born in Canada on free health care in 1961 on a cross border baby dump by Ann Dunham. What the logic confirms now in what Abercrombie blurted out is Barack Hussein Obama jr. was not born in these United States in any shape or form.
As deduced originally, if Obama was born in Washington State where Mama Obama was recorded in 1961 of August, he would have been recorded as such as an American. There are not two birth recordings known of Barrry II in America, so therefore that mean that Obama was registered by Madelyn Dunham with Stanley Ann out of the country.............it is that or there is the original scenario that Madelyn was impregnated by Uncle Frank Davis, had the baby in a pineapple patch, registered the child on the sly and dumped him onto Barack sr. in exchange for sex rite and a financial settlement, which would explain how Barack sr. was affording his lifestyle.

That becomes more complicated than necessary as I really do not care who bedded who, as B. Hussein IS a fraudulent registration no matter what now, and the likely scenario as proven by Abercrombie is Barry II was born outside America due to his recorded on the undocumented list papers.

This was all public knowledge and I just am stunned that egg head Abercrombie the intellectual was not warned off on this as that fraud GOP skirt governor knew enough to cover this all up. So that brings up the questions of is Abercrombie a Clinton operative mixing the pot the way Rahm Emanuel is in Chicago as someone had to have told this dupnik what in the Obama was going on.

That is the exclusive though on this records list as it is seperate obviously from normal lists which have birth certificates and it is why Hawaii was coming up with the fraudulent statements that the records were destroyed. It was all a cover for their corrupt importing of illegals, as there never were records for these anchor babies who are not Americans, but the story was manufactured to keep people out of prison.
The problem though was Obama was installed into the White House after stealing the 2008 elections, and was too stupid to commit fraud and print up a counterfeit birth certificate.

Barry Obama just does not have any balls. He commits the biggest damned fraud in world history, has others perjure themselves, break piles of laws, and this dink would not go out and have his sister print up a birth certificate on a college printer.

That is about as wussy as it comes.

Thankfully though now Neil Abercrombie has gone on record in stating there is no COLB. Broken here, Obama is on a recorded list which would mean others are there of the same birth problems, and that means Hawaii has an entire record of every fraudulent border buster there.

Ann Coulter, you now not only look like you need to eat some steak, but you look like the absolute fool you are in backing Obama and smearing Birthers.

Sean Hannity, you care to finally address this reality as it is a real national security issue now, and you have just been certified wrong in Obama is not an American, but is a product of fraud.

For the real record, Barack Hussein Obama is a foreign secular Kenyan Indonesian Muslim, who knowingly committed espionage against America. This secular Muslim has looted the US Treasury of a known 13 plus trillion dollars, collapsed the economy, left Americans holding the bag on 100 trillion in insurance defaults...........and he been engaged in inter Muslim tribal warfare as he has his fingers on America’s shrinking nuclear weapons stockpiles as he gives Russia and China the lead in nuclear warfare.

Chris Matthews and Ed Koch..........did you get all of that? Barack Obama just doesn’t have a mental connection with Americans, but has a legal disconnect and that is why all his policies seem to reflect of something written in Peking.

The Governor of Hawaii, a Democrat, states there is no COLB for Obama and that Obama is on a separate list of other recorded names.

The Birthers have been absolutely right on this and have just been proven correct in Obama is undocumented and foreign born.
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2011/01/obama-x-marks-spot.html


213 posted on 01/19/2011 6:59:51 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: mojitojoe

Lame Cherry’s latest. I’ll give him a web hit. :-)


214 posted on 01/19/2011 7:29:19 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: autumnraine; All

Hint to Guv:

The BC is sittin’ right next to the Holy Grail and the Ark of the Covenant ...


215 posted on 01/19/2011 8:36:25 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...</i><p>)
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To: mojitojoe

Lame Cherry gets it right!

“That is waht Abercrombie revealed in the ‘recorded list’. Hawaii has a separated list which this dupnik apparently was not aware of in order to bypass normal American registrations so doctors were not on the legal hook, and these foreign born infants could just be dumped into the system as Hawaii was not going to ask and no one there was going to tell in this corrupt intrastate system.

“Barack Hussein Obama is ON THE SEPERATED LIST and not on the American born list.”

Just like a crooked business that keeps two sets of books: one to show to the tax man, and the real one!


216 posted on 01/19/2011 8:48:47 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Lame Cherry is great! I often wonder who writes that blog.


217 posted on 01/19/2011 10:25:56 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: mojitojoe; thecodont

Great article by Lame Cherry. He lays into the frauds.


218 posted on 01/19/2011 11:05:38 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: thecodont; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; ...
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Lame Cherry gets it right!

“That is waht (what) Abercrombie revealed in the ‘recorded list’.

Hawaii has a separated list which this dupnik apparently was not aware of in order to bypass normal American registrations so doctors were not on the legal hook, and these foreign born infants could just be dumped into the system as Hawaii was not going to ask and no one there was going to tell in this corrupt intrastate system.

“Barack Hussein 0bama is ON THE SEPARATED LIST - and not on the American born list.”

Just like a crooked business that keeps two sets of books: one to show to the tax man, and the real one!

. . . . . Check out # 213.

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219 posted on 01/19/2011 11:15:59 PM PST by LucyT
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To: jamese777
You’ve got to stop believing everything you read on the internet.

Especially jamese777!!!
220 posted on 01/20/2011 2:26:47 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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